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    Striving-without-striving


    Some folks may misinterpret the "no attainment" teachings of Soto Zen by making it sound as if Soto teachers are advocating for complacency, passivity, killing time, wallowing in our own stupidity. Nothing could be further from the truth!

    We practice very, very diligently, each moment, all to realize this radical "no other place to be, nothing to attain, all goals ever realized, Buddha is manifest right here!" It is much like walking up a mountain (Buddha Mountain) in which every single step is itself total arrival at Buddha Mountain, every inch its own "summit" of Buddha mountain ... and yet we keep on moving on, not quitting. We seek to do our sincere best with each step to avoid the "mud holes" of greed, anger and ignorance, thus bringing Buddha to life in our walking Buddha Mountain. No need to seek this mountain which is always underfoot, and yet we seek to walk it well. Thus we strive and gain the glorious realization that there is no need to gain Buddha Mountain aside from this very step by step along Buddha Mountain. Buddha Mountain is right here, not hidden behind the distant hills.

    We may also learn to ease our heart, relax from all thirst and fear, free of the hunger to be elsewhere, thus ... striving with our legs, our heart beating, even as our heart is free of all hunger and striving: Thus, striving-without-striving, this doing-non-doing.

    There is no need for perfection for, in fact, we can never get away from Buddha Mountain. Nonetheless, we keep trying to do our very best as sincere and diligent practitioners walking this mountain. One step may be graceful, the next step a stumble, yet we get up and continue on through this life. Eventually, with time, the walker may become enlightened to the fact that she has been Buddha-Walking-Buddha all along, and not an inch has ever been travelled away from Buddha, nor can one be nearer..
    Suzuki Shunryu spoke about this attitude in 'Not Alway So':

    Dogen Zenji says, "Practice and enlightenment are one." Practice is something you do consciously, something you do with effort. There! Right there is enlightenment. Many Zen masters missed this point while they were striving to attain perfect zazen: things that exist are imperfect. That is how everything actually exists in this world. Nothing we see or hear is perfect. But right there in the imperfection is perfect reality. It is true intellectually and also in the realm of practice. It is true on paper and true with our body. You think that you can only establish true practice after you attain enlightenment, but it is not so. True practice is established in delusion, in frustration. If you make some mistake, that is where to establish your practice. There is no other place for you to establish your practice.
    We talk about enlightenment, but in its true sense perfect enlightenment is beyond our understanding, beyond our experience. Even in our imperfect practice enlightenment is there. We just don't know it. So the point is to find the true meaning of practice before we attain enlightenment. Wherever you are, enlightenment is there. [f you stand up right where you are, that is enlightenment.
    (not always so, p 129)


    It is the Koan of 'Ongoing, Continuous, Practice-Enlightenment' which we Soto folks savor.

    Is the fellow in this picture going up or down or on a level plain?

    In truth, he is moving yet always still, always right here yet moving.



    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 07-20-2022 at 06:47 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Thank you

    I fell into the trap, deciding that he was definitely going up a hill.

    Gassho,
    Gareth
    Sat today, Lah

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    Doğukan,
    Sat.

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    I find this paradox wonderful. That we think of doing something without doing it. This is akin to how the Alexander Technique teaches people to inhibit. Before moving, tell yourself not to move. You can move when you want to, but the idea is to prevent actions from becoming automatic; you have to do them intentionally. They're all about the goallessness goals as well.

    It also makes me think of flow. You've practiced something to do it well, and, sometimes, it just happens. You're no longing thinking of the attainment, you're just doing the thing. You're the thing doing the thing; you're the attainment that's not being attained.

    Gassho,

    Ryūmon (Kirk)

    sat
    流文

    I know nothing.

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    Thank you for the post. I think this is the essence of Zen.

    Gassho,
    Suuko.

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    Thanks Jundo. Needed to hear this.

    Gassho
    Lah sat

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    Thank you, Jundo.
    Itís something I have to constantly remind myself of.
    Gassho,
    Sat/LAH

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    And I just had some nice news. Tricycle magazine and online says my other recent essays are getting a good response from all concerned, so they wish to publish more I have written about once a month, this essay included.

    I am glad that people get it. Writing Zen essays is also a matter of effort-without-effort.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    And I just had some nice news. Tricycle magazine and online says my other recent essays are getting a good response from all concerned, so they wish to publish more I have written about once a month, this essay included.

    I am glad that people get it. Writing Zen essays is also a matter of effort-without-effort.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    You are on a roll! How lovely that people respond to your teaching and benefit from it!


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    Excellent news! It's nice to see you popping up there.

    Gassho
    Sat, lah
    求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
    I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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    Great news. I am pleased to hear more people get to benefit from your teachings.

    Gassho,

    Artien
    Sat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    And I just had some nice news. Tricycle magazine and online says my other recent essays are getting a good response from all concerned, so they wish to publish more I have written about once a month, this essay included.

    I am glad that people get it. Writing Zen essays is also a matter of effort-without-effort.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    And after you've done a couple dozen, choose the best and collect them in a book.

    Gassho,

    Ryūmon (Kirk)

    sat
    流文

    I know nothing.

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    Thank you, Jundo.

    Gassho
    STLah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    And I just had some nice news. Tricycle magazine and online says my other recent essays are getting a good response from all concerned, so they wish to publish more I have written about once a month, this essay included.

    I am glad that people get it. Writing Zen essays is also a matter of effort-without-effort.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Congratulations!

    Gassho,

    Hoseki
    sattoday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    And I just had some nice news. Tricycle magazine and online says my other recent essays are getting a good response from all concerned, so they wish to publish more I have written about once a month, this essay included.

    I am glad that people get it. Writing Zen essays is also a matter of effort-without-effort.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Thatís great news, Jundo.
    Gassho,
    Mateus
    Sat/LAH

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    Thank you Jundo!


    Tairin
    Sat today and lah
    泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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    My zazen today was interrupted by an important work delivery I couldn't miss, and I thought of this as I went from the cushion to answer the door. It was still zazen.

    Gassho
    Anna
    SatToday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna View Post
    My zazen today was interrupted by an important work delivery I couldn't miss, and I thought of this as I went from the cushion to answer the door. It was still zazen.

    Gassho
    Anna
    SatToday
    Accept the delivery yet something that neither can be given nor taken away.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Anna
    sattoday

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    I sat today.
    I have to laugh at the sitting being interrupted by a knock at the door. This happened to me during savasana corpse pose in yoga the other day. I viewed it as a "wake up" call from the world.
    Gassho.
    kaye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    And I just had some nice news. Tricycle magazine and online says my other recent essays are getting a good response from all concerned, so they wish to publish more I have written about once a month, this essay included.

    I am glad that people get it. Writing Zen essays is also a matter of effort-without-effort.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Yay! Maybe I'll renew my subscription then, seeing as its editorial rating just went up

    Gassho, Tokan (satlah)

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