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    March 25-26th Treeleaf Weekly Zazenkai - Waiting (And Remember DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!)


    Waiting

    I'm not sure why Jundo hasn't posted a Zazenkai yet, so I'm just trying to help out by getting us started...

    PLEASE REMEMBER DAYLIGHT SAVINGS, WHICH HAS CHANGED IN NORTH AMERICA,
    not yet in Europe!! (Australians and NZ, you are on your own! )

    Please confirm start times below.



    Dear All,

    Please sit our Treeleaf Zazenkai for 90 minutes with Zazen, Heart Sutra and more:

    10am Japan Saturday morning, NY 9pm, LA 6pm Friday night, London 1am and Paris 2am Saturday morning, or any time thereafter here:


    However, "one way" live sitters are encouraged to come into the Zoom sitting, and just leave the camera and microphone turned off: Join live (with or without a camera & microphone) on Zoom at: TREELEAF Now OR at DIRECT ZOOM LINK, password (if needed): dogen

    00:00 – 00:15 CEREMONY (HEART SUTRA in English) and Dedication
    00:15 – 00:45 ZAZEN
    00:45 – 00:55 KINHIN
    00:55 – 01:25 ZAZEN
    01:25 – 01:30 VERSE OF ATONEMENT & FOUR VOWS
    01:30 - 01:45(?) Informal Tea Time (All Welcome)

    ATTENTION: Everyone, when rising for Kinhin or Ceremonies after Zazen, get up slowly, don't rush, hold something stable, you won't be "late," so TAKE YOUR TIME! Make sure you are careful getting up!

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatTodayLah



    PS - There is no "wrong" or "right" in Zazen ... yet here is a little explanation of the "right" times to Bow (A Koan) ...


    Chant Book is here for those who wish to join in: CHANT BOOK LINK

    The other video I mention on Zendo decorum is this one, from our "Always Beginners" video Series:

    Sit-a-Long with Jundo: Zazen for Beginners (12) - Basic Zendo Decorum At Home
    https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...093#post189093

    I also recommend a little Talk on why small rituals and procedures are so cherished in the Zendo:

    SIT-A-LONG with Jundo: Small Things in the Zendo

    https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...s-in-the-Zendo
    Last edited by Sekishi; 03-25-2022 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Added youtube link.
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    Hope Jundo is okay.

    Thank you, Sekishi

    Gassho2

    --stlh--

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    Last edited by Meian; 03-25-2022 at 10:20 PM.
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    Will be there with the bells

    Gassho
    Jakuden
    SatTodayLAH

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    Knew I forgot something today.

    Thank you, Sek.

    Gassho, Jundo
    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Knew I forgot something today.

    Thank you, Sek.

    Gassho, Jundo
    STLah
    Wheew! Had me worried there for a second! Good morning gozaimasu!

    Sat Today
    Bion
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    When you put Buddha’s activity into practice, only then are you a buddha. When you act like a fool, then you’re a fool. - Sawaki Roshi

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    I am working today. I will sit with all of you, one way later on.

    Gassho,
    Suuko.


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    OH that was definitely a little Kensho moment. Yes all the waiting and on top of everything, my back went out during the Heart Sutra and I was lying on the floor waiting for the Zazenkai to end so I could crawl up to bed... but then Jundo yells "WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR" and from that moment, it's all just laughter, because it's Zazen and it's the Dharma gate of Ease and Joy even on the cold floor having back spasms. We're so funny with all our waiting and waiting, aren't we? but at least we are doing it together, and maybe helping each other awaken now and then.

    Kyonin, so good to see you brother, wish I could stay around and chat!

    Gassho
    Jakuden
    SatToday/Quit waiting for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakuden View Post
    OH that was definitely a little Kensho moment. Yes all the waiting and on top of everything, my back went out during the Heart Sutra and I was lying on the floor waiting for the Zazenkai to end so I could crawl up to bed... but then Jundo yells "WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR" and from that moment, it's all just laughter, because it's Zazen and it's the Dharma gate of Ease and Joy even on the cold floor having back spasms. We're so funny with all our waiting and waiting, aren't we? but at least we are doing it together, and maybe helping each other awaken now and then.

    Kyonin, so good to see you brother, wish I could stay around and chat!

    Gassho
    Jakuden
    SatToday/Quit waiting for now
    Oh no!!! Rest that back and feel better! Thanks for making the effort to chant us trough till the end!!

    Sat
    Bion
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    When you put Buddha’s activity into practice, only then are you a buddha. When you act like a fool, then you’re a fool. - Sawaki Roshi

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    Thank you everyone. I hope your back feels better, Jakuden. It is funny to realize how much we wait in our lives.

    Gassho,
    Onkai
    Sat/lah
    美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
    恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

    I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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    That was very lovely! Thank you everyone.

    The talk was deep and moving. Thank you Jundo.

    Gassho
    Life itself is the only teacher.
    一 Joko Beck


    STLah
    安知 Anchi

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    Thank you everyone!
    Hope your back is better soon, Jakuden.

    Gassho,
    Kotei sat/lah today.

    義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.
    Being a novice priest doesn't mean my writing about the Dharma is more substantial than yours. Actually, it might well be the other way round.

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    Thank you everyone! Thank you Jundo for the talk (and the laughter)
    Jakuden, I hope you feel better soon
    Gassho, Kiri
    Sat/Lah
    希 rare
    理 principle
    (Nikolas)

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    Thank you everyone. I sat with you this morning.

    Nice talk today Jundo. It invoked a couple of “Ah-ha!” moments for me.



    Tairin
    Sat today and lah
    泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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    Thank you for the thought-provoking words on 'waiting', Jundo .

    Can we see it this way?
    We wait because we plan. We plan because we want certainty. We need certainty to have control. We need to be in control to feel secure. We need to feel secure to face uncertainty. We cannot face uncertainty because it could mean death. We cannot face death because we don't understand life.

    Does the chain continue?

    Sorry to run long.
    Gassho.

    Sat today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prashanth View Post
    Thank you for the thought-provoking words on 'waiting', Jundo .

    Can we see it this way?
    We wait because we plan. We plan because we want certainty. We need certainty to have control. We need to be in control to feel secure. We need to feel secure to face uncertainty. We cannot face uncertainty because it could mean death. We cannot face death because we don't understand life.

    Does the chain continue?

    Sorry to run long.
    Gassho.

    Sat today.

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    We can’t face life either, cause we don’t understand death. We also don’t understand no old age and death, no cessation of old age and death.

    Sat Today
    Bion
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    When you put Buddha’s activity into practice, only then are you a buddha. When you act like a fool, then you’re a fool. - Sawaki Roshi

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    Thanks for the good wishes all! There's only the reflection of the moon on the water

    Gassho,
    Jakuden
    SatToday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prashanth View Post

    Can we see it this way?
    We wait because we plan. We plan because we want certainty. We need certainty to have control. We need to be in control to feel secure. We need to feel secure to face uncertainty. We cannot face uncertainty because it could mean death. We cannot face death because we don't understand life.

    Does the chain continue?
    We need to plan in life, from what we will have for breakfast in the morning, to where we hope our life and our family is 20 years from now. Yes, it is the human being's great tool to survive, which let us plan hot to get a rocket to the moon! Yes, we want to reduce the chances of disaster and death! We fear failure and sickness, and do our best to stay healthy and alive!

    But the Zen fellow says that we can only go so far in getting control, even with our best planning. So, while we try out best, we do not cling to outcomes. We flow with events too, even when they go against out plan, even when resulting in disaster and death. We flow, with whatever comes.

    The Zen fellow learns to do both of the above paragraphs AT THE SAME TIME, AT ONCE!

    But we also have a third view, which is this Radical Non-Waiting, Radical "Nothing to Plan, Nothing to Achieve." It sees right through all opposites, so that there is no other place to go, no separate thing to attain, no win vs. lose, NOTHING LACKING, NOTHING TO CHANGE. There is not even birth and death, even as there is birth and there is death. Yes, "no old age and death, no cessation of old age and death." This is Radical Non-Waiting, even as we dive right in to whatever life and death bring.

    The Zen fellow learns to know all of the above AT ONCE, AS ONCE!

    Gassho, J

    Sorry to run long.

    STlah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Prashanth; May I suggest a book for you to read: Uchiyama roshi"s "Opening the Hand of Thought"
    As Jisho Warner writes in her preface, Opening the Hand of Thought "goes directly to the heart of Zen practice... showing how Zen Buddhism can be a deep and life-sustaining activity."
    gassho, Shokai
    stlah
    Last edited by Shokai; 03-27-2022 at 01:50 AM.
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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    Thank you, Jundo. I look forward to getting know the Zen Fellow better. Gassho.

    Thank you, Shokai. Yes, it's high-time that I read that book. My father's passing last November changed all reading plans, including starting to read Uchiyama Roshi's book.

    Gassho.

    Prashanth.

    Sat.


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    Prashanth are you waiting while you plan or just planning ?
    As all things in life, is it not down to perspective.
    Good to see you Kyonin.
    And I hope your back has now recovered Jakuden.


    Thank you all.

    Sat for peace (and waiting for the next Zazenkai )


    Seishin

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    Shin - Heart

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    I read this blog post today by Koun Franz and it reminded me of Jundo’s talk from this Zazenkai. I thought I’d share

    https://dharmacrafts.com/blogs/news/...for-koun-franz


    Tairin
    Sat today and lah
    泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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    Thank you, Tairin. That is a helpful article.

    Gassho,
    Onkai
    Sat/lah
    美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
    恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

    I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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    I waited to sit this Zazenkai for a few weeks. Glad I didn't wait any longer

    Gassho, Tomás
    Sat

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