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  1. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryokudo View Post
    Hey all here is a link to the song of zazen by haukin that will be used as the basis of the chanting next week it is on page 16 I think

    https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/cont...eat-Chant-Book

    Many thanks

    Gassho
    ,

    Ryokudo

    SAT/LAH
    Hello all,

    As ever it was wonderful sitting and chanting with you all this evening, I hope you enjoyed it.

    It was also great to see some new faces, welcome one and all and we hope to see you again, real soon.

    As promised for those who may be new here I have reposted the link to the Treeleaf Retreat Chant Book for Enmei Jukku Kannon Gyo amongst many other lovely texts. If for some reason the link doesn't work the way to find it on Treeleaf is as follows :-

    Home > Sutras > Treeleaf Retreat Chant Book > TREELEAFCHANTBOOKFORRETREAT11252011.pdf

    Thanks one and all for your practice and see you soon,

    Gassho

    Ryokudo,

    SAT/LAH

  2. #252
    Hey all,

    For this week as I have posted the link above, I suggest we start on Monday with :

    Sanki Raimon
    Song of Hakuin Reading
    Maka Hannya Shin Gyo
    Zazen
    Haiku
    4 vows.

    How does that sound?

    Please feel free to come with any alternatives either today or tonight.

    Many thanks my friends,

    Ryokudo

  3. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryokudo View Post
    Hey all,

    For this week as I have posted the link above, I suggest we start on Monday with :

    Sanki Raimon
    Song of Hakuin Reading
    Maka Hannya Shin Gyo
    Zazen
    Haiku
    4 vows.

    How does that sound?

    Please feel free to come with any alternatives either today or tonight.

    Many thanks my friends,

    Ryokudo


    aprapti

    sat

    Let silence take you to the core of life (Rumi)


    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    Sat somewhere in the Universe during the last 24H.

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    Maka Hannya Shin Gyo ❤
    I work evenings most days this week, but will be there whenever able.

    Gassho,
    Rinmei
    (sat)

  7. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinmeies View Post
    Maka Hannya Shin Gyo ❤
    I work evenings most days this week, but will be there whenever able.

    Gassho,
    Rinmei
    (sat)
    Hey Rinmei,

    Who doesn't love Maka Hannya, I'll look forward to you joining the chant, (or leading if you would like).

    If you don't make it this week then we can always slip it in the next time you are here, you can never have 2 much Maka Hannya.

    We'll look forward to seeing you when work permits, many of us are in similar positions after all. To be honest we don't mind if people are there everyday or they turn up every now and again. We're all part of the zen family and always welcome

    In Gassho,

    Ryokudo,

    SAT/LAH

  8. #258
    Thank you, Ryukudo

    I have been searching for the four vows in Dutch and French. A search that might be complicated by not knowing much of either language. Would anyone be able to direct me (or copy-paste here)?
    Thank you

    Gassho,
    Rinmei
    (sat)

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    Bonjour Rinmei,

    Here is my French translation of the four vows, followed by the Dutch translation.

    See you soon,

    Yuki (雪)

    ___________
    Les quatre vœux du bodhisattva


    Je fais vœux de :

    Sauver la totalité des êtres vivants, bien que les êtres soient innombrables ;


    Transmuer toutes les illusions, bien que les illusions soient inépuisables ;


    Percevoir la Réalité, bien que la Réalité soit illimitée ;


    Parvenir à la Voie de l’Éveil, Voie impossible à atteindre.

    __________________
    (Dutch)

    Hoe talloos de levende wezens ook zijn,
    ik beloof ze alle te bevrijden.

    Hoe talloos de oorzaken van lijden ook zijn,
    ik beloof ze alle weg te nemen.

    Hoe talloos de poorten van de dharma ook zijn,
    ik beloof ze alle door te gaan.

    Hoe eindeloos de weg van Boeddha ook is,
    ik beloof hem ten einde te gaan.

    __________________


    And, of course, sat during the last 24 hours.

  10. #260
    Thank you, Yuki!

    And here the Norwegian translation used by the Norwegian Soto Zen Order:

    ---

    Uansett menneskehetens mangfold
    jeg lover å redde dem alle

    Uansett hvor utrettelige mine vrangforestillinger
    jeg lover å slette dem alle

    Uansett hvor omfattende Dharmas lære
    jeg lover å mestre dem alle

    Uansett hvor endeløs Buddhas vei
    jeg lover å følge den

    ---

    Thank you all for a lovely evening!

    Gassho,
    Rinmei

    (sat)

  11. #261
    Thank you, Rinmei.

    Chanting was a wonderful '' Four Vows'' in Norwegian.

    Thank you so much

    Always great to sit and chant with You and everybody.

    Thank you all

    Gassho,
    nobody
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    Hi everybody !

    Here is the Fukanzazengi from master Dōgen. As it is a long text, I put it in four parts.

    Part I

    Fukan-zazengi The Standard of Sitting-Zen Recommended for Everyone

    Now, when we research it, the truth originally is all around: why rely upon practice and experience?
    The vehicle for the fundamental exists naturally: where is the need to expend effort?
    Furthermore, the whole body far transcends dust and dirt: who could believe in the means of sweeping and polishing?
    In general, we never depart from the place where we should be: of what use, then, are the tip-toes of training?
    However, if there is a thousandth or a hundredth of a gap, heaven and earth are far apart,
    and if a trace of disagreement arises, we lose the mind in confusion.
    Even if, proud of our understanding and richly endowed with realizations, we obtain special states of insight,
    attain the truth, clarify the mind, manifest a zeal that pierces the sky,
    and ramble through those remote spheres that are entered with the head;
    we have almost completely lost the vigorous path of getting the body out.
    Moreover, remembering the natural sage of Jetavana park, we can [still] see the traces of his six years of upright sitting.
    We can still hear rumors of the transmitter of the mind-seal at Shaolin, spending nine years facing the wall.
    The ancient saints were like that already: how could people today fail to practice wholeheartedly?
    So cease the intellectual work of studying sayings and chasing words.
    Learn the backward step of turning light and reflecting.

    Body and mind naturally drop off, and the original face appears.
    If we want to attain the matter of the ineffable, we should urgently practice the matter of the ineffable.

    __________

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu

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    Part II

    In general, a quiet room is good for experiencing Zen balance, and food and drink are taken in moderation.
    Abandon all involvements. Give the myriad things a rest.
    Do not think of good and bad. Do not care about right and wrong.
    Stop the driving movement of mind, will, consciousness.
    Cease intellectual consideration through images, thoughts, and reflections.
    Do not aim to become a buddha.
    How could it be connected with sitting or lying down?
    Usually on the place where we sit we spread a thick mat, on top of which we use a round cushion.
    Either sit in the full lotus posture or sit in the half lotus posture.
    To sit in the full lotus posture, first put the right foot on the left thigh,
    then put the left foot on the right thigh.
    To sit in the half lotus posture, just press the left foot onto the right thigh.
    Let clothing hang loosely and make it neat.
    Then place the right hand over the left foot,
    and place the left hand on the right palm.
    The thumbs meet and support each other.
    Just sit upright,
    not leaning to the left, inclining to the right, slouching forward, or arching backward.
    It is vital that the ears vis-a-vis the shoulders, and the nose vis-a-vis the navel, are directed away from each other.
    Let the tongue spread against the roof of the mouth. Let the lips and teeth come together. The eyes should be kept open.
    Let the breath pass imperceptibly through the nose.
    Having readied the posture, make one complete exhalation, and sway left and right.
    _______________

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu

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    Part III

    Sitting in balance in the mountain-still state, "Think the concrete state of not thinking."
    "How can the state of not thinking be thought?"
    "It is different from thinking." This is the secret of sitting-Zen.
    What is called sitting-Zen is not learning Zen meditation.
    It is just a peaceful and effortless gate to reality.
    It is practice-and-experience which perfectly realizes the Buddha's enlightenment.
    The Universe is realized, untouched by restrictions or hindrances.
    To grasp this meaning is to be like a dragon that has found water, or like a tiger before a mountain stronghold.
    Remember, true reality is naturally manifesting itself before us,
    and gloom and distraction vanish at a stroke.
    If we rise from sitting, we should move the body slowly. Rise with calm confidence.
    We should not be hurried or violent.
    We see in the past that those who transcended the ordinary and transcended the sacred,
    and those who died while sitting or died while standing,
    relied totally on this power.
    Moreover, changing of the moment through the action of a finger, a pole, a needle, or a wooden clapper;
    and exact experience of the state through the manifestation of a whisk, a fist, a staff, or a shout,
    can never be understood by thinking and discrimination.
    How could they be known through mystical powers or practice and experience?
    They may be dignified behavior beyond sound and form.
    How could they be anything other than criteria that precede knowing and seeing?
    Therefore, we do not discuss intelligence as superior and stupidity as inferior.
    Let us not choose between clever persons and dull ones.
    If we make effort devotedly, that is just wholehearted pursuit of the truth.
    Practice-and-experience is naturally untainted.
    The direction of effort becomes more balanced and constant.
    ____________________

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu

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    Part IV

    Broadly then, in this world and in other worlds, in India and in China,
    all similarly maintain the Buddha-posture,
    and solely indulge in the fundamental custom:
    we simply devote ourselves to sitting, and are caught by the still state.
    Although there are myriad distinctions and thousands of differences, we should just pursue the truth through Zen balance.
    Why should we abandon our own sitting platform,
    to come and go without purpose through the dusty borders of foreign lands?
    If we misplace one step we pass over the moment of the present.
    We have already received the essential pivot which is the human body: let us not pass time in vain.
    We are maintaining and relying upon the pivotal essence which is the Buddha's truth: who could wish idly to enjoy sparks [that fly] from flint?
    What is more, the body is like a dewdrop on a blade of grass.
    Life passes like a flash of lightning.
    Suddenly it is gone.
    In an instant it is lost.
    I beseech you, noble friends in learning through experience,
    do not grow used to images and doubt the real dragon.
    Apply yourself to the path which is directly indicated and straightforward.
    Revere people who are beyond study and free of the intention to achieve.
    Accord with the enlightened state of the buddhas.
    Be a rightful heir to the balanced state of the ancestors.
    If you practice the ineffable for a long time, you will be ineffable.
    The treasure-house will open naturally, and you will receive and use [its contents] as you like.

    Master Dogen's Fukan-zazengi rufubon (the popular edition).
    Trans. Gudo Nishijima & Chodo Cross, New Year 2003.
    ________________

    We will see today how we will use it. See you !

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu

  16. #266
    Aloha everybody,

    Sounds lovely, the Fukanzazengi from master Dōgen.

    Thank you Yuki & Ryokudo.

    Maybe Aprāpti ,can chant 3 times '' Four Vows'' in Dutch ?

    It is always pleasant and joyful to sit with everybody.

    See you all!

    Gassho
    SatTodayLah

  17. #267
    Hello "Chanting & Zazen" friends.
    Who is joining in Ango and Jukai this year? I would whole-heartedly recommend you do. "An experience not to be missed."
    You can quote me.

    https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...actice%29-2021

    I am sure you have thought of this already, but just on the off-chance that people have not.... perhaps some thought needs to be given to how this group continues during Ango? Same or different? Are any changes in schedule needed so as not to clash with Ango activity? Should the theme follow Ango study? We have a nice little ready made study group here, where we *could* discuss - if people want to. Or should the group rest during Ango and reconvene after Rohatsu?

    All questions for everyone to voice their opinions/ preferences. Also it may be useful to ask the opinion of one of the Unsui, to see what their advice is.

    Thank you for reading this rather long message.

    Bows.
    Seiko
    stlah
    清 Sei (Pure)
    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  18. #268
    Hi Seiko

    That is a good question to ask.

    Jundo can answer with more certainty but, as far as I am aware, your timing is unlikely to conflict with anything in Ango so I don't see any reason to stop. It seems like you have a good group going now.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday/lah-
    ------------------------------------
    Feel free to message me if you wish to talk about issues around practicing with physical limitations. This is something I have been sitting with for a fair while and am happy to help with suggestions or just offer a listening ear.

  19. #269
    Hi,

    Yes, I would just continue as you are. If there is some conflict with our Retreat (December) or the like some particular weekend, then maybe just take a break that day.

    No need to change a thing.

    Gassho, Jundo

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  20. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by Kokuu View Post
    Hi Seiko

    That is a good question to ask.

    Jundo can answer with more certainty but, as far as I am aware, your timing is unlikely to conflict with anything in Ango so I don't see any reason to stop. It seems like you have a good group going now.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday/lah-
    Thank you
    清 Sei (Pure)
    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  21. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Hi,

    Yes, I would just continue as you are. If there is some conflict with our Retreat (December) or the like some particular weekend, then maybe just take a break that day.

    No need to change a thing.

    Gassho, Jundo

    STLah
    Thank you
    清 Sei (Pure)
    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  22. #272
    I am happy to hear from Jundo that this circle can continue without clashing with Ango practice. The only clash may be during Rohatsu, so possibly only one or two days.

    Gassho
    Seiko
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    清 Sei (Pure)
    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  23. #273
    I am happy to hear from Jundo that this ⭕️Chanting and Zazen Circlecan can continue without clashing with Ango practice.

    Thank you so much Jundo & Kokuu.

    I am beyond grateful for all You do and this community.

    A deep bow of gratitude,

    nobody
    Last edited by omom; 08-10-2021 at 04:06 PM.
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  24. #274
    Hey all,

    The likelihood is I will be stuck in client meetings tonight so I will have to see you tomorrow.

    Many thanks,

    Ryokudo

  25. #275
    As we have been reading different versions of Fukanzazenji, I did a little research and found out that this text existed in China BEFORE Dogen went there. An English translation of this text exists - translated by Shohaku Okumura. The original Text is titled Zenen Shingi and was written by Master Choro Sosaku.

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    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko View Post
    As we have been reading different versions of Fukanzazenji, I did a little research and found out that this text existed in China BEFORE Dogen went there. An English translation of this text exists - translated by Shohaku Okumura. The original Text is titled Zenen Shingi and was written by Master Choro Sosaku.

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    Thank you Seiko, it’s very interesting !
    Following your post, I found this document with six translations of Fukanzazengi. I imagine you already know it :
    https://terebess.hu/zen/dogen/Fukanzazengi-6.pdf

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu today

  27. #277
    During the last two days when I dropped in, it was nice to see the chanting and zazen circle going strong. All good people, gaining something new each day from practice together. The circle certainly doesn't lack anything when Ryo or me are not there.

    Sitting and chanting, chanting and sitting we all chant and sit together - whether one individual is present or elsewhere.

    Bows
    Seiko
    stlah
    清 Sei (Pure)
    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  28. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko View Post
    As we have been reading different versions of Fukanzazenji, I did a little research and found out that this text existed in China BEFORE Dogen went there. An English translation of this text exists - translated by Shohaku Okumura. The original Text is titled Zenen Shingi and was written by Master Choro Sosaku.

    Bows
    Seiko
    stlah
    Oh no, not really.

    First, you mean the Zuochan yi (Tso-ch'an i or Zazengi) by Choro Sosaku (in Japanese, aka Changlu Zongze or Changlu Tsung-tse in Chinese), which is included as one part of his "Zenen Shingi, Rules of purity for the Chan Monastery."

    In those days, I think that the concept of "plagiarism" did not exist as it does now. So, when Dogen wanted to write a "how to" instruction on Zazen, he picked up one of the existing ones (the Zuichan yi) and basically rewrote it in most sections. He left some of the sections on the mechanics of sittings, like posture and crossing the legs, almost unchanged, but so radically reworked the rest so much, especially about the significance and attitude toward Zazen, that it is a radically different text and approach.

    Dogen actually criticized the Zuochan yi in his own Shobogenzo-Zazen Shin. A book about the rewriting of the Zuochan yi by Dogen is this one, by Zen historian Prof. Bielefeldt:

    https://terebess.hu/zen/dogen/BielefeldtDogen.pdf

    Here is an example, 4 matching sections so you can see what Dogen did:

    Tsung-tse:

    (1) The Bodhisativa who studies prajna should first arouse the thought of great compassion, make the extensive vows,
    and then carefully cultivate samadhi. Vowing to save sentient beings, he should not seek liberation for himself
    alone.

    ...

    (2) Then cast aside all involvements and discontinue all affairs. Make body and mind one, with no division between
    action and rest. Regulate food and drink, so that you take neither too much nor too little; adjust sleep, so that you
    neither deprive nor indulge yourself.

    ...

    (3) Once you have settled your posture and regulated your breathing, you should relax your abdomen. Do not think of
    any good or evil whatsoever. Whenever a thought occurs, be aware of it; as soon as you aware of it, it will vanish.
    If you remain for a long period forgetful of objects, you will naturally become unified. This is the essential art of
    tso-ch'an. Honestly speaking, tso-ch'an is the dharma gate of ease and joy. If there are many people who become ill
    [from its practice], it is because they do not take proper care.

    ...

    (4) Even if one devotes himself to the practice his entire life, he may still not be in time; how then could one who
    procrastinates possibly overcome karma? Therefore, an ancient has said, ''Without the power of samadhi, you will
    meekly cower at death's door." Shutting your eyes, you will end your life in vain; and just as you are, you will drift
    [in samsara].
    Dogen:

    (1) Fundamentally speaking, the basis of the way is perfectly pervasive; how could it be contingent on practice and
    verification? The vehicle of the ancestors is naturally unrestricted; why should we expend sustained effort? Surely
    the whole being is far beyond defilement; who could believe in a method to polish it? Never is it apart from this
    very place; what is the use of a pilgrimage to practice it? And yet, if a hair's breadth of distinction exists, the gap is
    like that between heaven and earth; once the slightest like or dislike arises, all is confused and the mind is lost.

    ...

    (2) For studying Zen, one should have quiet quarters. Be moderate in food and drink Cast aside all involvements and
    discontinue all affairs. Do not think of good or evil; do not deal with right or wrong. Halt the revolutions of mind,
    intellect, and consciousness; stop the calculations of thoughts, ideas, and perceptions. Do not intend to make a
    Buddha, much less be attached to sitting still.

    ...

    (3) Once you have regulated your posture, take a breath and exhale fully. Swing to the left and right. Sitting fixedly,
    think of not thinking. How do you think of not thinking? Nonthinking. This is the essential art of zazen. Zazen is not
    the practice of dhyana: it is just the dharma gate of ease and joy. It is the practice and verification of ultimate
    bodhi. The koan realized, baskets and cages cannot get to it.

    ...

    (4) Why abandon the seat in your own home to wander in vain through the dusty regions of another land? If you make
    one false step, you miss what is right before you. Since you have already attained the functioning essence of a
    human body, do not pass your days in vain; when one takes care of the essential function of the way of the
    Buddha, who can carelessly enjoy the spark from a flint? Verily form and substance are like the dew on the grass,
    and the fortunes of life like the lightning flash: in an instant they are emptied, in a moment they are lost.
    So, you can see what Dogen did with the original.

    Sorry to run long.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
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  29. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Oh no, not really.

    First, you mean the Zuochan yi (Tso-ch'an i or Zazengi) by Choro Sosaku (in Japanese, aka Changlu Zongze or Changlu Tsung-tse in Chinese), which is included as one part of his "Zenen Shingi, Rules of purity for the Chan Monastery."

    In those days, I think that the concept of "plagiarism" did not exist as it does now. So, when Dogen wanted to write a "how to" instruction on Zazen, he picked up one of the existing ones (the Zuichan yi) and basically rewrote it in most sections. He left some of the sections on the mechanics of sittings, like posture and crossing the legs, almost unchanged, but so radically reworked the rest so much, especially about the significance and attitude toward Zazen, that it is a radically different text and approach.

    Dogen actually criticized the Zuochan yi in his own Shobogenzo-Zazen Shin. A book about the rewriting of the Zuochan yi by Dogen is this one, by Zen historian Prof. Bielefeldt:

    https://terebess.hu/zen/dogen/BielefeldtDogen.pdf

    Here is an example, 4 matching sections so you can see what Dogen did:

    Tsung-tse:



    Dogen:



    So, you can see what Dogen did with the original.

    Sorry to run long.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Thank you Jundo, it is fascinating to see how Dogen used the earlier text and developed, extended and changed it to offer his teaching. Thank you for your correction and guidance.

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    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  30. #280
    Hi all,

    As per our chat last night I am reposting the Treeleaf Retreat Handbook which has most of our chants (Maka Hannya, Sandokai, Song of Zazen etc.) including the perennial favourite Enmei Jukku Kannon Gyo.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UWo..._d2kBSQKi/view. Actually I'm not certain this works so alternatively you can find it here

    Home > Sutras > Treeleaf Retreat Chant Book > TREELEAFCHANTBOOKFORRETREAT11252011.pdf

    I will probably therfore do the Treeleaf version of Fukanzazengi tonight (it is probably by Jundo) as taken from this document, and if not take your pick from those offered by Yuki and Seiko's documents.

    Look forward to seeing you,

    Gassho,

    Ryokudo

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
    Thank you Seiko, it’s very interesting !
    Following your post, I found this document with six translations of Fukanzazengi. I imagine you already know it :
    https://terebess.hu/zen/dogen/Fukanzazengi-6.pdf

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu today
    Last edited by Jundo; 08-13-2021 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryokudo View Post
    Hi all,

    As per our chat last night I am reposting the Treeleaf Retreat Handbook which has most of our chants (Maka Hannya, Sandokai, Song of Zazen etc.) including the perennial favourite Enmei Jukku Kannon Gyo.

    https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/cont...eat-Chant-Book. Actually I'm not certain this works so alternatively you can find it here

    Home > Sutras > Treeleaf Retreat Chant Book > TREELEAFCHANTBOOKFORRETREAT11252011.pdf

    I will probably therfore do the Treeleaf version of Fukanzazengi tonight (it is probably by Jundo) as taken from this document, and if not take your pick from those offered by Yuki and Seiko's documents.

    Look forward to seeing you,

    Gassho,

    Ryokudo
    We wait with impatience for this reading, Ryokudo.

    See you this evening (for you and all Euro folks !)

    Yuki (雪)
    Zafu today

  32. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryokudo View Post
    Hi all,

    As per our chat last night I am reposting the Treeleaf Retreat Handbook which has most of our chants (Maka Hannya, Sandokai, Song of Zazen etc.) including the perennial favourite Enmei Jukku Kannon Gyo.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UWo..._d2kBSQKi/view. Actually I'm not certain this works so alternatively you can find it here

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    Hi Ryokudo,

    I fixed the link to our Treeleaf Chant Book to this one ...

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UWo..._d2kBSQKi/view

    It is not my version of Fukanzazengi. That version is largely (I may have adjusted a few words) by the scholars at the Soto Zen Text Project.

    https://www.lionsroar.com/dogens-instruction-for-zazen/

    Gassho, Jundo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Hi Ryokudo,

    I fixed the link to our Treeleaf Chant Book to this one ...

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UWo..._d2kBSQKi/view

    It is not my version of Fukanzazengi. That version is largely (I may have adjusted a few words) by the scholars at the Soto Zen Text Project.

    https://www.lionsroar.com/dogens-instruction-for-zazen/

    Gassho, Jundo

    STLah
    Many thanks, Jundo

    One day I will get the hang of posting links I swear.

    Also many thanks for the clarification on its authorship, it's always a boon to know where our texts have originated.

    See you soon,

    Gassho,

    Ryokudo

    SAT/LAH

  34. #284
    Fukanzazenji.

    Just in case anyone would like to read, here is a translation by Tanahashi - recommended by my Italian friend: https://www.upaya.org/uploads/pdfs/Fukanzazengi.pdf

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    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  35. #285
    Even more Fukanzazenji

    A PDF download of the version used at San Francisco Zen Center can be found on the page that this link opens : https://www.sfzc.org/offerings/estab...as-texts-songs

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    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  36. #286
    Thank you! Sorry I missed yesterday. My daughter didn't sleep on time. Hoping to be there today!

    Gassho,

    Tony,
    The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the green earth in the present moment, to appreciate the peace and beauty that are available now. - Thích Nhất Hạnh

  37. #287
    It's always good to check the calendar to see what is going on.

    Tonglen on Sundays.

    httpss://www.treeleaf.org/now/#calendar

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    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

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    Hi everybody !

    I suggest the reading of Sandokai this week. The text is available in our Treeleaf Chant Book :

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UWo..._d2kBSQKi/view

    If you find another versions, it could be interesting to compare too.

    See you tomorrow !

    Yuki (雪)
    (Sat the Tonglen Practice Circle)

  39. #289
    Hello everybody,

    Thank you Yuki

    It sounds lovely, as ever, it is lovely how the circle is ever changing.

    See You

    Gassho
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    You are all continuing the circle very well. Bows to everyone here.

    I may pop in sometimes, but when I first began, with my brother Ryokudo, I had always said that I would be happy to 'take a back seat' if others were keen to be involved. We always intended to create a place where anyone can speak, chant, ring the meditation bell, lead if they want to. Listening quietly is good too, if that is what suits you. So with this in mind, please do not think of me or Ryo as the leaders. I am certainly not a zen teacher, just another person sitting on a mat like you. The circle is a symbol that everyone here is equal and anyone of you can propose chants, format, changes, as you feel.

    I am happy that we have this lovely safe place where we can all share.

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    Last edited by Seiko; 08-16-2021 at 10:59 AM.
    清 Sei (Pure)
    光 Ko (Light)

    My 'street name' is Al Garrod and I live near the Roman city of Lincoln, England.

    Great support can be gained by sitting quietly amongst friends.

  41. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko View Post
    You are all continuing the circle very well. Bows to everyone here.

    I may pop in sometimes, but when I first began, with my brother Ryokudo, I had always said that I would be happy to 'take a back seat' if others were keen to be involved. We always intended to create a place where anyone can speak, chant, ring the meditation bell, lead if they want to. Listening quietly is good too, if that is what suits you. So with this in mind, please do not think of me or Ryo as the leaders. I am certainly not a zen teacher, just another person sitting on a mat like you. The circle is a symbol that everyone here is equal and anyone of you can propose chants, format, changes, as you feel.

    I am happy that we have this lovely safe place where we can all share.

    Bows
    Seiko
    stlah

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    Hi Ryokudo !

    Anthony and me want to wish you a wonderful Birthday !
    See you soon !

    Anthony and Yuki (雪)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryokudo View Post
    Absolutely true !



    Yuki (雪)

  44. #294
    Hi Ryokudo !



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    With all best Dharma wishes!


    Gassho
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    Hi everybody !

    As asked today, here are words from « Paroles de tous les jours »

    Paroles de tous les jours

    Ici et maintenant

    Chaque jour de la vie est un apprentissage
    Apprentissage pour moi-même
    Bien que l'échec soit possible
    Vivant chaque instant
    L'égal de toute chose
    Prêt à tout
    Je suis vivant, je suis ce moment
    Mon avenir est ici et maintenant
    Car si je ne peux endurer ce jour
    Quand et où le pourrai-je ?

    Paroles de tous les jours,
    by Soen Ozeki, Abbot of Daisen-in, Kyoto

    Words for Each Day

    Here and now

    Each day in life is training.
    Training for myself.
    Though failure is possible.
    Living each moment.
    Equal to anything.
    Ready for everything.
    I am alive. I am this moment.
    My future is here and now.
    For if I cannot endure today.
    When and where will I?


    Have a nice day !

    Yuki (雪)

    Sat with dear friends from Chanting and Zazen Circle

  46. #296
    Wonderful Words from « Paroles de tous les jours »
    l Love it.

    Thank you Yuki !

    Have a Lovely Weekend!

    Gassho
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    Hi everybody !

    As promised :

    Sandokai
    (text established by Shunryu Suzuki, translation by Luc Broussard)

    L'harmonie entre la différence et l'égalité

    L'esprit du grand sage de l'Inde
    s'est intimement transmis d'ouest en est.
    Les facultés de l'homme sont plus ou moins aiguisées,
    mais la voie n'a ni patriarches du Nord ni patriarches du Sud.
    La source spirituelle brille dans la lumière*;
    les effluents coulent dans l'obscurité.
    Saisir les choses est certainement une illusion*;
    se mettre en accord avec l'identité n'est pas encore l'illumination.
    Tous les objets des sens
    sont en interaction et pourtant ne le sont pas.
    L'interaction entraîne la solidarité.
    Sans quoi chacun reste sur sa position.
    Les visions varient en qualité comme en forme,
    les sons sont tantôt agréables tantôt désagréables.
    Dans l'obscurité, les discours raffinés et vulgaires se confondent,
    dans la lumière, les phrases claires et troubles se distinguent.
    Les quatre éléments retournent à leur nature
    tout comme l'enfant se tourne vers sa mère.
    Le feu chauffe, le vent bouge,
    l'eau mouille, la terre est solide.
    Œil et vision, oreille et son,
    nez et odeur, langue et saveur.
    Ainsi, pour tout ce qui existe,
    selon ces racines-là, les feuilles se développent.
    Le tronc et les branches partagent l'essence*;
    noble ou vulgaire, chacun a son discours.
    Dans la lumière existe l'obscurité.
    Dans l'obscurité existe la lumière,
    mais ne la regardez pas comme de la lumière.
    La lumière et l'obscurité s'opposent
    comme le pied avant et le pied arrière dans la marche.
    De toutes les choses innombrables, chacune a son mérite,
    exprimé selon sa fonction et sa place.
    Les phénomènes existent, comme la boîte et le couvercle s'ajustent*;
    le principe s'accorde, comme la rencontre de deux pointes de flèche.
    Entendant les mots, comprenez le sens*;
    ne créez pas vos propres normes.
    Si vous ne comprenez pas la voie qui se trouve à vos pieds,
    comment connaîtrez-vous le chemin sur lequel vous marchez?
    La pratique n'est pas une question d'éloignement ou de proximité,
    mais dans la confusion les montagnes et les rivières barrent la route.
    Vous qui étudiez le mystère, je vous supplie respectueusement
    de ne pas passer vainement vos jours et vos nuits.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yuki (雪)
    ( Sat Chanting and Zazen Circle today )

  48. #298
    Merveilleuse

    Merci Beaucoup Yuki !

    Gassho
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    Hi everybody !

    You can find most of the texts we are using at Chanting and Zazen Circle in those threads. I wish it could be useful for you !

    Thread #12
    Sanki Raimon (English)


    Sandokai can be found in the Treeleaf Chant book - that we use for Weekly and Monthly Zazenkai.

    Maka Hannya Haramita Shin Gyo In thread #31

    Zen Master Hakuin's Chant in Praise of Zazen * (Hakuin Zenji Zazen-Wasan, a traditional Rinzai chant) In thread #70

    HAKUIN ZENJI ZAZEN WASAN (Japanese ) in thread #149

    Sanki Raimon in Japanese. in thread #115

    Shi Gu Sei Gan Mon (The Four Vows in Japanese)

    SHU JO MU HEN SEI GAN DO

    BON NO MU JIN SEI GAN DAN

    HO MON MU RYO SEI GAN GAKU

    BUTSUDO MU JO SEI GAN JO

    The four vows (French) in thread #162

    the Four Vows (Portuguese) in thread # 166

    the Four Vows (Dutch) in thread # 167

    The four vows (Norwegian) in thread #260

    Silent lllumination by Hongzhi Zhengjue (English) #163
    Silent Illumination (French) #169

    Paroles de tous les jours / Words for Each Day (French/English) #295

    And I add this short chant used for opening the Sutra verse :

    « The Dharma is deep and lovely,
    We now have a chance to see it,
    study it, and practice it.
    We vow to realize it’s true meaning. »

    Mujô jinjin mimyô hô
    hyaku senman gô nan sôgû.
    Ga kon kemmon toku juji.
    Gange nyorai shinjitsu gi.

    Song of the Grass-Roof Hermitage (English) In thread #145 and (Japanese) #238

    Contemplating Mind by Hanshan Deqing (English) in thread #174


    Yuki

    Gassho

    Yuki (雪)
    ( Sat the Zazenkai)
    Last edited by Yuki; 08-31-2021 at 06:17 PM.

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    I just found out that their are pages in a thread....

    I thought the last post here was really a long time ago (page 1)...

    I have made a Dutch (poetic) translation of the Bodhisattva vows. Actually it's becoming a song like a 'Buddhist gospel'. I'm a bit embarrassed about it, i only do direct action / protest songs (Trade-Union) in Dutch. But this one just wrote itself, like 'inspired' so to say, it's not really my own doing.

    Must be you lot!

    Gassho

    Herrie.

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