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Thread: Pirated Books within Ethical Context of Refraining from Stealing

  1. #51
    Not to dig up a divisive thread... but I'm going to do just that :P Came across a very specific example today and wanted to share. This is from Sanshin-ji:

    Protect Okumura Roshi. Stop online piracy.
    We're aware that bootleg copies of Okumura Roshi's books are sometimes available free online. The files are acquired or created and posted without the permission of the publisher or the author, and amount to stolen property regardless of the intent of the person posting them. Yes, the dharma is free. Okumura Roshi's intellectual property, the result of countless hours of intensive work, is not. Royalties from his publications constitute a significant portion of the income with which he supports himself and his family. If you respect Okumura Roshi's writings and are drawn to him as a teacher, you will choose to acquire your copies of his books legally and provide the support he needs to continue his work.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  2. #52
    I buy his and also Jundo's.

    Blyth's out of print stuff and The platform Sutra I downloaded.

    Hopefully Hue-ning's mummy wont mind.



    gasho,

    Greg
    STlah

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  3. #53
    Following up on this, I discovered that Okumura has a number of huge collections of audio talks on Bandcamp:

    https://bandcamp.com/search?item_typ...hohaku+okumura

    They're a bit expensive, but it's good to see that they are distributed like that.

    And, of course, there are lots on YouTube. Here's a very long series on Opening the Hand of Thought:

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...pj39cuNwTn3j4c

    Gassho,
    Ryūmon (Kirk)
    Sat
    流文

    I know nothing.

  4. #54
    Hopefully Hue-ning's mummy wont mind.
    In the case of The Platform Sutra, I guess we have to consider the work of whichever translator spent time and effort to render the text into English.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Kokuu View Post
    In the case of The Platform Sutra, I guess we have to consider the work of whichever translator spent time and effort to render the text into English.
    Hear, hear. As someone who has translated a couple dozen books, the lack of understanding that translation is not free irks me.

    Gassho,

    Ryūmon (Kirk)

    sat
    流文

    I know nothing.

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Kokuu View Post
    In the case of The Platform Sutra, I guess we have to consider the work of whichever translator spent time and effort to render the text into English.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-
    The one i have I think was public domain / translated in the 30s, I would agree about downloading Bill Porter's version, ect.

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  7. #57

    Pirated Books within Ethical Context of Refraining from Stealing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kokuu View Post
    In the case of The Platform Sutra, I guess we have to consider the work of whichever translator spent time and effort to render the text into English.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-
    Also, the Sutra can be acquired for free and legally in printed form from Budaedu .. So, no need to sneak around with pirated pdfs

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    Last edited by Bion; 02-03-2022 at 11:29 PM.
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    My first "expensive" Zen book was Yampolsky's translation of the Platform Sutra. I think it was maybe $68 around 20 years ago, for a trade paperback. I thought the price was horrible. Not so much, now.

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    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bion View Post
    Also, the Sutra can be acquired for free and legally in printed form from Budaedu .. So, no need to sneak around with pirated pdfs

    Sat Today
    I LOVE LOVE LOVE http://www.budaedu.org/ and have gotten many Dharma texts from them. They have a large selection of printed copies in many languages, and an even larger selection of .pdfs, all available legally and for free as Bion mentioned. They also have posters!
    You can get free, legal .pdfs of the entire Taisho Tripitaka (at least as much of it as has been translated into English!) from Bukkyo Dendo Kyokai here: https://bdkamerica.org/
    The Buddha Dharma Education Association has a lot of free, legal materials available at https://www.buddhistelibrary.org/
    There are plenty of alternatives to https://terebess.hu/ that don't occupy that same morally and legally grey-tending-toward-black area that people have pointed out here.

    Sorry to run long!
    Showan
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