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    Translation of Eihei Shingi?

    Does anyone know if there are any places where I could get an english copy of the Eihei Shingi (which as far as I understand, Dogens Instructions for the Cook are just one part of?) I see a copy on amazon, though it's over 60 dollars which leads me to believe that it's out of print... Are there any digital copies available?


    Evan,
    Sat today, lah
    Just going through life one day at a time!

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    Here is a link https://monasterystore.org/products/...f-eihei-shingi

    For a loss expensive copy.

    Gassho,

    Junkyo
    SAT

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    hi Evan,

    i have this one:
    Dogen's Pure Standards for the Zen Community: A Translation of Eihei Shingi (SUNY Series in Buddhist Studies)

    translated by Taigen Daniel Leighton and Shohaku Okumura. It was $ 33,95 at amazon.



    aprapti,

    std/lah

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    Hi Evan

    This book by Jiyu Kennett has translations of Eihei Shingi in it but I don't know how it compares to the Leighton/Okumura version:

    https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/EternalLife.pdf

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-

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    I would not rely on the Jiyu Kennett Roshi translations, she tended to the very "King James" in her style sometimes, and embellished quite a bit. The Taigen Leighton/Okumura is much more reliable.

    I would purchase a copy if you can, and you can afford, and here are some options:

    https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?f...97963026_1:3:1

    Also, if you truly cannot afford a copy, or while you are waiting for delivery of a purchased copy, it is available online. However, please only use if you cannot otherwise purchase, or will use a small bit only for study, as we do not want to just take without need. Also, you can request from a library, and use the following while waiting for arrival! (I think we still have public libraries. )

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160222...nStandards.pdf

    Now, as to Dogen's Tenzo Kyokun, "Instructions for the Cook" (not to be confused with a book by Bernie Glassman or a film about Ed Brown of the same names), I highly highly recommend this commentary by Uchiyama Roshi as one of the best "Zen books" of all timeless time:

    https://www.amazon.com/How-Cook-Your...4PF1VE1VDQZMWV

    (also sometimes available as "Refining your life") ....

    https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Kitchen-E...s=books&sr=1-2

    Gassho, J
    Last edited by Jundo; 09-14-2020 at 01:37 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    I would not rely on the Jiyu Kennett Roshi translations, she tended to the very "King James" in her style sometimes, and embellished quite a bit. The Taigen Leighton/Okumura is much more reliable.

    I would purchase a copy if you can, and you can afford, and here are some options:

    https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?f...97963026_1:3:1

    Also, if you truly cannot afford a copy, or while you are waiting for delivery of a purchased copy, it is available online. However, please only use if you cannot otherwise purchase, or will use a small bit only for study, as we do not want to just take without need. Also, you can request from a library, and use the following while waiting for arrival! (I think we still have those. )

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160222...nStandards.pdf

    Now, as to Dogen's Tenzo Kyokun, "Instructions for the Cook" (not to be confused with a book by Bernie Glassman or a film about Ed Brown of the same names), I highly highly recommend this commentary by Uchiyama Roshi as one of the best "Zen books" of all timeless time:

    https://www.amazon.com/How-Cook-Your...4PF1VE1VDQZMWV

    (also sometimes available as "Refining your life") ....

    https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Kitchen-E...s=books&sr=1-2

    Gassho, J
    Thank you! And yes I'm actually in the middle of reading Uchiyama Roshi's book. And ya I did notice Jiyu Kennet tended to have a bit of a "King James" vibe as you put it. Read a bit of her stuff before coming to treeleaf.

    Also in regards to the library, not something I had thought of... though in regards to books... they're definitely not what they used to be, Libraries seem to be shifting to other focuses in recent years (at least that's what I've noticed) I remember being shocked when I first when to college, the library had 3 floors, but most of the shelves were completely empty.


    Evan,
    Sat today, lah
    Last edited by gaurdianaq; 09-14-2020 at 12:51 AM.
    Just going through life one day at a time!

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