Music within Zen

[Tsuru]

Hi everyone, just a curiosity more than anything. I’ve heard some mention fulfilling a musical role within certain ceremonies and events etc. Usually when I’ve asked they’ve explained that it is quite small roles playing a drum to keep tempo for chanting and similar ‘utility’ roles. I was wondering if there’s a term for these practices? As a musician I would love to further explore bringing my work to a sangha

With love,
Jonathan,
Gassho

St, lah


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[Jundo]

Hi Jonathan,

Usually, the Ino and Doan fulfill these rolls ...

https://austinzencenter.org/doan/

https://austinzencenter.org/ino/

In some places, there are other roles such as the Fukudo, Kokyo and Shoten ...

https://austinzencenter.org/fukudo/

https://austinzencenter.org/kokyo/

https://austinzencenter.org/shoten/

Here are most of the instruments (bells and drums) that one will find around a traditional Zen monastery ...

https://terebess.hu/zen/szoto/hangszersz.html

In a local Zen group in the west, the drumming and bell ringing is usually relatively simple compared to the intricate daily schedule of a Japanese Zen monasteries, which has bells and drums in various sequences for all manner of daily events.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

[Tsuru]

Hi Jonathan,

Usually, the Ino and Doan fulfill these rolls ...

https://austinzencenter.org/doan/

https://austinzencenter.org/ino/

In some places, there are other roles such as the Fukudo, Kokyo and Shoten ...

https://austinzencenter.org/fukudo/

https://austinzencenter.org/kokyo/

https://austinzencenter.org/shoten/

Here are most of the instruments (bells and drums) that one will find around a traditional Zen monastery ...

https://terebess.hu/zen/szoto/hangszersz.html

In a local Zen group in the west, the drumming and bell ringing is usually relatively simple compared to the intricate daily schedule of a Japanese Zen monasteries, which has bells and drums in various sequences for all manner of daily events.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

Perfect! Thank you for these links, I think I just needed the correct terminology haha

Gassho,
Stlah


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[Jundo]

Well, I just came across a rather interesting kinda-Buddhist jam that I missed somehow a few years ago ...



Man was made to procreate
My estate generates
As if my family name was Gates
... Lift some weights, eat some steaks
... I love the way she make that shake
Makin' it hard to concentrate -- Buddha

Lyrics ...

Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo

Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo

Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate

Meditate, levitate
Greetings from the Golden State
Mr. X to the Z
Concentrate, come walk with me

Your *** sound so awkwardly
I don't rhyme, I just stomp down beats
Real estate, section eight
Which one would you rather take?

Concentrate, move that weight
Show me how you regulate
Hold up, wait, that *** fake
Get these *** up out my face

Shake the room, bend the spoon
Turn this up now, stay in tune
Hypnotized by the way she move
Take your time, you might arrive too soon

Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate

Bring that back, what was that?
Oh my Lord, she got back
So precise, so detached
Oh my God, who is that?

Hibernate, consummate
Man was made to procreate
My estate generates
As if my family name was Gates

Days of grace lift big plates
Why be good? Go be great
Hit the breaks, crack them crates
Have you on the run goin' state to state

Contemplate, demonstrate
Mind over mayhem, no mistakes
Lift some weights, eat some steaks
But you don't really want that face to face

But let's relax, check your traps
Don't let yo' concentration snap
I love the way she arch her back
Like how a muh'*** 'sposed to handle that?

Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate

Bring that back, what was that?
Oh my Lord, she got back
So precise, so detached
Oh my God, who is that?

Breath control, touch yo' soul
Just maintain, don't lose control
Participate, congratulate
'Cause everything else'll be seen as hate

Remain in place, the same mind state
Get off yo' *** and celebrate
Congregate, associate
Don't *** yo'self, procrastinate

Dilate to an all time great
Calculate the next move I make
Crack the safe, keep that ace
In my waistband, just in case

I'm no rat, can't run yo' race
Not too good, don't fit my taste
I love the way she make that shake
Makin' it hard to concentrate

Bring that back, what was that?
Oh my Lord, she got back
So precise, so detached
Oh my God, who is that?

Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate
Concentrate, concentrate

Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo
Nam myoho renge kyo

Gassho, J

STLah