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    Basic Oryoki style video

    Hi

    This is Kakunen

    I share video of basic Oryoki style at Eiheiji.

    This video shared by teacher of Komazawa Univ.(Official univ of Soto Sect)

    But this is kind of basic style.When I was at temple,every temple have every
    style.

    But they try to keep style from Fushuku-hanbo by Master Dogen.



    Sat today
    Kakunen
    Nine bows

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    It is lovely. I wish the camera would have more close-ups on the hand movements of the monks opening and closing their bowls.

    Thank you, Kakunen.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    It is lovely. I wish the camera would have more close-ups on the hand movements of the monks opening and closing their bowls.

    Thank you, Kakunen.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Please do not focus about Oryoki.They take a lunch with Monjyu-Bosatsu.

    Eating is not technic.This is important.

    This our traditional is Zen.

    We need to eat with Buddha.

    Jundo.Please do not forget this fact.

    I think Camera do not need to close-up.

    Please watch wide view.

    Sometimes we are,we are ,

    Umm..

    Please accept teaching of Master Dogen.

    From bad monk Kakunen
    Nine bows
    I will sit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakunen View Post
    Please do not focus about Oryoki.They take a lunch with Monjyu-Bosatsu.

    Eating is not technic.This is important.

    This our traditional is Zen.
    Yes, I join in a Tea Ceremony every month at the school for mentally challenged kids where I volunteer. As you know, Tea Ceremony is very much of the same flavor as Oryoki, a wonderful ballet of traditional movements from folding the wiping cloth to handling the bowls. However, at our Ceremony with the kids, bowls are dropped, tea is often spilled, cloths are paper tissues and people help people. Here is the true Heart of Ceremony, if you ask me.

    It is tea with Monjyu-Bosatsu.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Yes, I join in a Tea Ceremony every month at the school for mentally challenged kids where I volunteer. As you know, Tea Ceremony is very much of the same flavor as Oryoki, a wonderful ballet of traditional movements from folding the wiping cloth to handling the bowls. However, at our Ceremony with the kids, bowls are dropped, tea is often spilled, cloths are paper tissues and people help people. Here is the true Heart of Ceremony, if you ask me.

    It is tea with Monjyu-Bosatsu.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Jundo

    I also start to support tea group with kids.

    Kids ask me ,how do I become monk?

    I answer to him ,please enjoy your life.

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    Sat today
    Nine bows
    Kakunen

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    Joyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakunen View Post
    Please do not focus about Oryoki.They take a lunch with Monjyu-Bosatsu.

    Eating is not technic.This is important.

    This our traditional is Zen.

    We need to eat with Buddha.

    Jundo.Please do not forget this fact.

    I think Camera do not need to close-up.

    Please watch wide view.

    Sometimes we are,we are ,

    Umm..

    Please accept teaching of Master Dogen.

    From bad monk Kakunen
    Nine bows
    I will sit.
    Are you our teacher now?

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyo View Post
    Are you our teacher now?

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah
    I don’t think so.

    I am just here.

    Nine bows
    Sat today
    Kakunen


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    Last edited by Kakunen; 01-17-2019 at 10:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingen View Post
    Hey Kakunen,

    People come to this thread to learn Oryoki. I don't feel it is ok to tell them not to focus on oryoki.

    Some people want to learn this beautiful practice, that is their right. Please don't tell people they shouldn't do that.

    How do we know how Buddha ate? We don't. What is important is to be mindful and respectful of the food.

    Oryoki is not about race or gender ... anyone can practice oryoki.

    It is important to allow people to choose what they want practice. Let's not tell people how they should practice.

    I agree, best to just be silent and sit.

    Gassho
    Shingen
    Hi This is Kakunen.

    Do you know the word of Kissa-ko(喫茶去)?

    I always open my house.Everybody can come to my house.

    When I am tired,I will be at smile.
    When I am fine,I will be at smile.

    Drink tea together.

    Why don't you drink tea together,with Shingen,Joyo,and me,and Treeleafer?

    Share video about Kissa-ko,Sorry in Japanese.



    We can drink tea with Buddha and all being.

    Sorry for bad English.
    私の英語は下手です。

    Gassho
    Nine bows
    Kakunen

    Now I am at hospital again,but happy(^^♪
    Last edited by Kakunen; 01-18-2019 at 07:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakunen View Post
    Hi This is Kakunen.

    Do you know the word of Kissa-ko(喫茶去)?

    I always open my house.Everybody can come to my house.

    When I am tired,I will be at smile.
    When I am fine,I will be at smile.

    Drink tea together.

    Why don't you drink tea together,with Shingen,Joyo,and me,and Treeleafer?

    Share video about Kissa-ko,Sorry in Japanese.



    We can drink tea with Buddha and all being.

    Sorry for bad English.
    私の英語は下手です。

    Gassho
    Nine bows
    Kakunen

    Now I am at hospital again,but happy(^^♪
    Hey Kakunen,

    Tea sounds good ... Tea is always good. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    Sat/LAH

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    For a look at the handwork to open bowls, this solo lay practitioner seems to do a very lovey dance ...



    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Thank you for posting this, Kakunen.

    Oryoki is a very important part of our practice.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
    Sat/LAH
    Hondō Kyōnin
    奔道 協忍

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    I really enjoyed watching this, it was lovely, more relaxed than I expected. I loved the drumming too!
    Thank you Kakunen.
    Gassho
    Meitou
    satwithyoualltodaylah
    命 Mei - life
    島 Tou - island

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    Very nice ... Thank you both. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    Sat/LAH

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    Thank you for the videos.

    Shugen

    Sattoday/LAH


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    I very much enjoyed watching the videos. Thank you Kakunen and Jundo
    I realise we keep a very similar format when practicing at Shugen's circles with
    the exception that we serve ourselves.
    While at sesshins here we usually have a shorter and a bit simplified ceremony.

    Gassho,
    Washin
    just sat
    Kaido (有道) Every Way
    Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
    ----
    I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything what I say must not be considered as teaching
    and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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    Thank you for sharing this video. Oryoki is really a nice experince, especially with several people together. A good example of how aesthetics and functionality are combined.

    Gassho
    Souchi

    SatToday/lah

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    I don't think that Kakunen said a wrong thing, and he is right: Oryoki and Tea Ceremony are -not- technique. Yet, they are technique too. Technique yet not technique, because soon all thought of method should be forgotten.

    One masters the dozens and dozens of movements for a lifetime, like a choreographed ballet, and carve them into the bones. Then, the body simply takes over, and one is free. It is a dance.

    It is much the same in Zazen, also a Zen ceremony too, as we bow and straighten the cushion, cross the legs and sit upright. A dance, the body soon to be dropped from mind.

    Here is a little lesson (in Japanese) of learning just one aspect of tea ceremony, folding the wiping cloth. It is just one of many aspects, many steps of drinking tea formally. People spend months, years, a lifetime just on this one aspect.

    There is freedom in just allowing to body-memory to lead, without thought, a key part of many Zen practices such as Oryoki, complex ceremonies at the Altar, sweeping and cleaning ... and a key path to one aspect of "dropping bodymind."

    Yes, it is taking lunch with Monjyu-Bosatsu.



    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    I am at hospital,again.
    We are sitting for you Kakunen, and will dedicate tomorrow's Zazenkai to your feeling better.

    Be gentle on yourself. The last video is very lovely just to see and feel, even beyond words and language.

    Everyone, let's relax with some tea.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakunen View Post

    I always open my house.Everybody can come to my house.

    When I am tired,I will be at smile.
    When I am fine,I will be at smile.

    Drink tea together.


    Now I am at hospital again,but happy(^^♪
    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    We are sitting for you Kakunen, and will dedicate tomorrow's Zazenkai to your feeling better.

    Be gentle on yourself. The last video is very lovely just to see and feel, even beyond words and language.

    Everyone, let's relax with some tea.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    I would love to have the chance to drink tea with you some day Kakunen. Today i will drink tea with you but from far away in the Treeleaf style.

    I will sit metta for you tonight.

    Thank you for sharing the videos.

    Thank you Jundo for dedicating the Zanzenkai to Kuanen.

    Off to make some tea.

    Gassho, Shinshi

    SaT-LaH
    空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
    I am just a priest-in-training, any resemblance between what I post and actual teachings is purely coincidental.

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    Chanting before opening Oryoki in herb Garden.

    Before eating.



    Nine bows
    Kakunen
    Sat today

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    The forms of Zen are there to give the individual freedom. There is no reason to think about who you are or how you are when everyone is doing almost the same thing. Therefore, I can understand that people are interested in how the processes are exactly.

    gassho,
    Peter

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