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    A piece of music

    Hi Folks,

    Somehow I never wandered in to this forum before, to my detriment it seems. I love music and mess around as best I can. Punk was what got me into playing music and playing guitar. I hope I still have that aesthetic even as my music evolves. I am an acoustic guitar kick at the moment but I thought I would share a piece of electronic music I made a while ago.

    https://soundcloud.com/amdue/intheam


    Gassho, Shoshin


    ST/LAH

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    And the horse seems to be into it too! Thank you Shoshin.

    Gassho, J

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    Thank you for sharing this, Shoshin. That is a long way from punk. Our Sekishi has turned me on to music that comes to mind when I hear this. It is different than your track, but , somehow this comes to mind. It is by a Scottish Duo who's musical project is called Boards of Canada. I love the idea off evolving, not holding on, letting go, and trying new things.
    It is the same with visual arts.

    This is the track, called Peacock's Tail..



    Gassho
    Daizan

    Sat today
    LAH

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    Thank you Jundo. His name was Ludolf. Sadly he passed away a few years ago, but he was a handsome lad. We have 6 horses now but no Fjords like Ludy.

    And thank you Diazan, that is a great track. I am honored that my piece reminds you of them.

    One of the things I liked about punk was its letting go of perfection and focusing on expression. How you feel in that moment.

    One of the things I work with from time to time is music that only exists in the moment. Using random sources of data to drive musical elements. I have used both the music programming language ChucK and have used Python to interact with Ableton Live. In some pieces I will have a basic backing structure but the melody is generated randomly. In another I take a twitter feed and convert the words to notes. I like the idea of thinking about what is a song. Both pieces are recognizable when you hear them twice. But they are not exactly the same. The actual piece only ever exists at one moment in time (unless you record it as it is playing). Sometimes I will run the code and and just love what I hear, but there is no way to hear it again. To my mind, even though I am using modern tools, it hearkens back to when music was more alive. People got together and created music to listen to or dance to in the moment, to have a good time. Not to record and sell.

    Anyway, enough babbling. Thanks for the feedback!


    Shoshin,

    SatToday

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    Hi Shoshin, Daizan and all,

    In some of the photography I do, it is much the same. Allowing an interchange between the viewer and the image without much straight representation. Allowing randomness. Allowing mistakes. What emerges could not have been planned. Just appreciated.

    Gassho
    Meishin
    sat today LAH

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    Lovely, Shoshin! I occasionally write similar(ish) pieces: https://soundcloud.com/magic-drummer/unfurling Electronic music can certainly be made with a punk ethos.

    In some of the photography I do, it is much the same. Allowing an interchange between the viewer and the image without much straight representation. Allowing randomness. Allowing mistakes. What emerges could not have been planned. Just appreciated.
    Meishin, I wonder if you have read The Zen of Creativity by John Daido Loori? Daido Loori Roshi really taps into that kind of idea for making art.

    Gassho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokuu View Post
    Lovely, Shoshin! I occasionally write similar(ish) pieces: https://soundcloud.com/magic-drummer/unfurling Electronic music can certainly be made with a punk ethos.



    Meishin, I wonder if you have read The Zen of Creativity by John Daido Loori? Daido Loori Roshi really taps into that kind of idea for making art.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday/lah-

    Kokuu, I have not. But I will. Thanks for the reference.

    Gassho
    Meishin
    sat today LAH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokuu View Post
    Meishin, I wonder if you have read The Zen of Creativity by John Daido Loori? Daido Loori Roshi really taps into that kind of idea for making art.
    Seconded. I keep a copy of "The Zen of Creativity", and John Cage's "Silence" on the shelf in my music room. Both are well loved and dog-eared.

    Gassho,
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoshin View Post
    One of the things I work with from time to time is music that only exists in the moment. Using random sources of data to drive musical elements. I have used both the music programming language ChucK and have used Python to interact with Ableton Live. In some pieces I will have a basic backing structure but the melody is generated randomly. In another I take a twitter feed and convert the words to notes. I like the idea of thinking about what is a song. Both pieces are recognizable when you hear them twice. But they are not exactly the same. The actual piece only ever exists at one moment in time (unless you record it as it is playing). Sometimes I will run the code and and just love what I hear, but there is no way to hear it again. To my mind, even though I am using modern tools, it hearkens back to when music was more alive. People got together and created music to listen to or dance to in the moment, to have a good time. Not to record and sell.
    Oh my Python and Ableton Live linking brother - I think we be friends.

    I'm a computer scientist by training and occupation, but I arrived by way of trying to write my own sequencer on the Commodore 64 many years ago (learning 6502 assembler to accomplish that goal set these feet on a particular path). I love finding ways to make my electronic friends talk to each other (software <-> MIDI, MIDI <-> CV, etc.). The explosion of interest and opportunities in the Eurorack format the past few years has been amazing to watch (all these little garage based companies making interesting modules and such is wonderful).

    Lately I've been playing with using Max to do some of what you reference above with Python (evolving melodies, etc.) as well as making virtual control surfaces for some of my favorite hardware synths:
    http://www.maxforlive.com/library/de...000-controller

    Anyhow, thank you for sharing.

    Gassho,
    Sekishi #sat
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    re: Ableton Live

    Total side-note: if anyone else uses Ableton Live and would like an opportunity to help out around the Sangha, I could always use an assistant in the podcast production department... I have a fairly standardized Ableton set for the podcast that I drop the talk into (it applies compression, EQ, noise gate, etc.).

    If interested, pop me a PM or post here.

    Gassho,
    Sekishi #sat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekishi View Post
    re: Ableton Live

    Total side-note: if anyone else uses Ableton Live and would like an opportunity to help out around the Sangha, I could always use an assistant in the podcast production department... I have a fairly standardized Ableton set for the podcast that I drop the talk into (it applies compression, EQ, noise gate, etc.).

    If interested, pop me a PM or post here.

    Gassho,
    Sekishi #sat
    Hi Sekishi,

    I missed your post way back when I posted my song. I am willing to take a shot at helping you with the podcasts if you are still looking for help. If you are ok with my trying it out for a while to see how it goes.

    Let me know. I also sent you a PM.

    Gassho, Shinshi

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