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    LIVING by VOW: The Robe Chant - pp 79 - 86 (All Chapter 4)

    We continue our readings, this time on the Verse of the Kesa ...

    Again, much richness of meaning and symbolism sewn into these pages. What resonates with you (or leaves you in stitches!) ... ?

    So much beauty here, but the last few lines of the last page may capture it all.

    Gassho, J

    SatTodayLAH
    Last edited by Jundo; 07-14-2017 at 11:49 PM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    I found this chapter especially interesting. I'm currently sewing the Kesa. It didn't strike me until now that I'm not only sewing with needle, thread and material. I'm sewing the Kesa every day. When I sit, when I get up and move forward with the day. I'm sewing the Kesa of my life.

    "We unfold this teaching through practice. We receive the teaching of the Tathāgata, unfold it, wear it, and are covered by it. This is the meaning of wearing the okesa and practicing zazen."

    Gassho,
    Entai
    Sat today /lah

    泰 Entai (Bill)
    "this is not a dress rehearsal"

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    Mp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entai View Post
    I'm not only sewing with needle, thread and material. I'm sewing the Kesa every day. When I sit, when I get up and move forward with the day. I'm sewing the Kesa of my life.
    Lovely! =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    SatToday/LAH

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    Joyo
    Guest
    Thank you Jundo, I will work my way through this chapter stitch by stitch =)

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah

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    Wow, I just asked about the Japanese robe verse on here a few days ago, and voila--the chant has now taken on it's own life apart from the English translation. Grateful to have this to set the stage for the beginning Kesa journey.
    Gassho
    Jakuden
    SatToday/LAH


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    My ears are joyful when Shingen chants it before we sit. Thank you brother.

    Gassho
    Doshin
    st/lah

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    Mp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doshin View Post
    My ears are joyful when Shingen chants it before we sit. Thank you brother.

    Gassho
    Doshin
    st/lah
    Thank you my friend. =)

    Deep bows
    Shingen

    SatToday/LAH

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    nice chapter again. I wonder can we just read "(o)rakusu"for okesa ? And what about sanghamembers without one of them ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post

    So much beauty here, but the last few lines of the last page may capture it all.

    Gassho, J

    SatTodayLAH
    i think these last lines answer my question..


    Coos
    std/lah

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    Mp
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprapti View Post
    nice chapter again. I wonder can we just read "(o)rakusu"for okesa ? And what about sanghamembers without one of them ?



    i think these last lines answer my question..


    Coos
    std/lah
    Hello Coos,

    I always say to folk who may not have rakusu and come sit with me is, listen to the robe chant and feel it fully in your heart. The robe chant goes beyond words, beyond fabric and thread ... the robe verse holds the whole universe, our whole lives and everything in it.

    I am sure it is ok for me to say it here, but I have a member that sits with me and when we put the rakusu upon our head for chanting the robe verse, he puts a article of fabric that is dear to him around his neck. It may not be the traditional rakusu or kesa, but to him it holds all that the robe verse represents ... to me, this is a beautiful expression and always make me smile. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    SatToday/LAH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingen View Post
    Hello Coos,

    I always say to folk who may not have rakusu and come sit with me is, listen to the robe chant and feel it fully in your heart. The robe chant goes beyond words, beyond fabric and thread ... the robe verse holds the whole universe, our whole lives and everything in it.

    I am sure it is ok for me to say it here, but I have a member that sits with me and when we put the rakusu upon our head for chanting the robe verse, he puts a article of fabric that is dear to him around his neck. It may not be the traditional rakusu or kesa, but to him it holds all that the robe verse represents ... to me, this is a beautiful expression and always make me smile. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    SatToday/LAH
    I'm so glad you shared this Shingen because it's such a beautiful thing, I don't have a rakasu either ( yet!!) and this was very inspirational for me.
    New to this tradition I have never heard the Robe Verse before, I found it very moving and have a lot to learn in this chapter, all new territory for me.

    Gassho
    Frankie

    satwithyoualltoday/LAH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyo View Post
    Thank you Jundo, I will work my way through this chapter stitch by stitch =)

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah
    I like your new Avatar Joyo

    Gassho,
    Jakuden
    SatToday/LAH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakuden View Post
    I like your new Avatar Joyo

    Gassho,
    Jakuden
    SatToday/LAH
    Yes, I do too Joyo. And the new beard ...




    (I kid, I kid ... )

    Gassho, J

    SatTodayLAH
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Joyo
    Guest
    Thank you Jundo and Jakuden =)

    Jundo, glad you like the beard, it's taken years to grow it this long!! I just wanted someone to finally notice it. =)

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah

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    "Emptiness means moving and changing moment by moment."



    Gassho
    Meishin
    Sat today lah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Yes, I do too Joyo. And the new beard ...




    (I kid, I kid ... )

    Gassho, J

    SatTodayLAH




    coos

    std/lah

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    Joyo
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by aprapti View Post




    coos

    std/lah
    It looks good on you, Aprapti. =)

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah

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    Sewing, always sewing this wonderfull robe.

    Gassho

    MyoHo
    Mu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyo View Post
    It looks good on you, Aprapti. =)

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today/lah
    Thank you, Joyo.
    its more taoistic than zen, but..


    Coos

    std

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    This chapter is a reminder of how sewing my rakusu was one of the most wonderful things I have ever done here at Treeleaf. I can think of no single action that has been a better or more direct teaching of how to honor the process that is so essential to Zen. I know every stitch in it because of the awareness cultivated in the growing and sewing of it, and that is its reward that I try (and fail) to honor as this chapter describes. My rakusu is one of my most (pricelessly) valuable possessions, but I would not fret if it were somehow destroyed. Its teaching lives a life far greater than its form, thus making it formless.
    AL (Jigen) in:
    Faith/Trust
    Courage/Love
    Awareness/Action!

    I sat today

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    One day the Buddha, walking in the countryside with his attendant Ānanda, noticed the beautiful patterns of rice paddies newly planted with green seedlings and surrounded by footpaths. They are especially beautiful in the rainy season when the rice is new. The Buddha remarked to Ānanda, “These are so beautiful. Could you make a robe like this?” Ānanda agreed.
    I didn't participate in Jukai last year but watched with fascination as last year's Jukai participants dutifully took large pieces of fabric, cut it up into small pieces and then sowed it all back together. Aside from the inherent practice of sewing I assumed there was some method to the madness. Now I understand.

    I am very much enjoying this book.

    Gassho
    Warren
    Sat today

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanLa View Post
    This chapter is a reminder of how sewing my rakusu was one of the most wonderful things I have ever done here at Treeleaf. I can think of no single action that has been a better or more direct teaching of how to honor the process that is so essential to Zen. I know every stitch in it because of the awareness cultivated in the growing and sewing of it, and that is its reward that I try (and fail) to honor as this chapter describes. My rakusu is one of my most (pricelessly) valuable possessions, but I would not fret if it were somehow destroyed. Its teaching lives a life far greater than its form, thus making it formless.
    As I said earlier, this is all new ground for me, so as well as reading this chapter, I also read Master Dogen's words on Robe Transmission in the Shobogenzo which I found really informative.( I do like his disparaging, no faffing about style - his use of 'pitiful' and 'laughable' also made me laugh).
    What I've learnt in this chapter is very simple - I really like the idea of actually 'wearing' the Dharma , I love the idea of sewing a rakusu too and I hope to be able to do that... but if all of this inspired me, nothing could have inspired me more than AlanLa's post above. Deepest of bows to you AlanLa. perfect words.

    Gassho,
    Frankie

    Satwithyoualltoday/lah

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    I'm still reading this book, just in a weird order. Actually been jumping around a bit, reading small sections and reflecting on what I read. I've been busy with school and family - and my local sangha has asked me to get involved in their outreach work in our community (walk the talk). So I am able to help in projects involving homeless, addiction rehabilitation, the elderly, and suicide intervention programs.

    As I read sections of the book, I feel it calling me to put my actions where my professed beliefs are. Maybe I'm wrong in this, but it feels to me that it challenges me to look at what I say I believe from another angle. What I read is coinciding (synchronicity) with the community work and my life events going on. The sangha I go to is a bit of a drive, and my sangha mates have been gently asking me when I will relocate closer to them (working on it, big task). My neurologist has cleared me of major health issues and "ordered" me back to sangha for my own health and well-being (I'm serious, she did).

    So I continue to read the book, read posts quietly here at TreeLeaf, and my family/grad school - I have added community service thru my local sangha that varies depending on which organization we're partnering with. The sangha asked me to join their BoD this fall, so that will open more opportunities to serve my community and the sangha. Living By Vow is helping me to clarify many things in my life and practice in surprising ways - I am grateful to be reading it, even if I'm reading it in a different order :-)

    Gassho
    Kim
    St/lh

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    My life is my temple and my practice.

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