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    Funeral delivery

    Jundo, maybe you should be talking to Sotoshu about a new business model...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/bu...rs-priest.html

    Gassho, Dudley
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    Yes. That is one reason I have so much difficulty to get Japanese folks to come to Zazen. Buddhism is almost totally in most folks minds about funerals for grandpa and memorial ceremonies for the ancestors.

    I might as well place an add that says, "Come to the Funeral Home and Have Some Fun!"

    I seriously would do better here to detach the Zazen completely from Buddhism and call it "Happy Relax Cosmic Yoga" or something. People would come.

    I have written more about "funeral Buddhism" in Japan here.

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...l=1#post166147

    Gassho, Jundo

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    How about "We put the "fun" in Funeral"?

    Nothing beats an Irish wake though.

    Gassho, Marc
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    Marc Connery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc42968 View Post
    How about "We put the "fun" in Funeral"?

    Nothing beats an Irish wake though.

    Gassho, Marc
    sat
    A sobbing Mrs. Murphy approaches Father O’Grady after mass.

    He says: “So what’s bothering you?”

    She replies: “Oh, Father, I’ve terrible news. My husband passed away last night.”

    The priest says: “Oh, Mary, that’s terrible. Did he have any last requests?”

    "Certainly father," she replied. “He said: “Please Mary, put down that damn gun.”


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    Happy Relaxing Cosmic Yoga sounds like the new place opening down the street from my house in yet another mixed-use development in Atlanta.

    To make zazen Big in Japan, I think we need some kind of weird game show where people meditate and if they move they get hit with fish by a guy dressed as some kaiju monster...there...I think there are enough stereotypes included in that statement




    Gassho,

    Heigan
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    Yes. That is one reason I have so much difficulty to get Japanese folks to come to Zazen. Buddhism is almost totally in most folks minds about funerals for grandpa and memorial ceremonies for the ancestors.

    I might as well place an add that says, "Come to the Funeral Home and Have Some Fun!"

    I seriously would do better here to detach the Zazen completely from Buddhism and call it "Happy Relax Cosmic Yoga" or something. People would come.
    Abbot Muho wrote something like that in his newest book. The Japanese tend to mix up their religions so they have different shrines at home, one for Shintoism, one for Buddhism,... That was very interesting to hear, sadly they don't care much about Zen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heigan View Post
    Happy Relaxing Cosmic Yoga sounds like the new place opening down the street from my house in yet another mixed-use development in Atlanta.

    To make zazen Big in Japan, I think we need some kind of weird game show where people meditate and if they move they get hit with fish by a guy dressed as some kaiju monster...there...I think there are enough stereotypes included in that statement




    Gassho,

    Heigan
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    Don't forget the kawaii idols dressed in skimpy versions of the typical Japanese schoolgirl uniform and the loud comedians/hosts commentating the nonaction. Jundo can join them as the resident gaijin talent.

    Raf
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    Jundo, It must be disappointing that there is so little interest in zazen where you are. It is important to me that my local sangha conducts memorial ceremonies. I can imagine that having this service available in Japan is a relief for some who have moved away from their home temple. I am speaking as a sangha member who had a family member die recently.

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    Hi Faith,

    Funerals and memorial services are important, and Buddhist temples provide an important glue that helps bring Japanese families together.

    It is just that Buddhism in Japan has become little else. That is unfortunate. A Buddhist temple or priest is about the last place that any spiritually inclined young person in Japan would turn these days. So called "new religious" have become the more likely outlet for such folks.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    So called "new religious" have become the more likely outlet for such folks.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
    Are any of these peripherally related to Buddhism (like SGI), or are they just new-agey concoctions? How big is Christianity in Japan?

    -satToday
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    Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
    Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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    Hi Kaishin,

    Christianity has been historically very small in Japan, although there are small groups of Christians. I believe that they are less than 1% of the population. There are various reasons for that.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/201.../#.V-vFvSiLTIU

    Yes, SGI is one of the more established and very very large "New Religions," an offshoot of Nichiren Buddhism. But there are many hundreds of groups, mostly small, with all variety of beliefs combining Shinto, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, New Agey beliefs, Divination and you name it ...

    This discusses some of the larger ones (and a couple very notorious) ...

    http://jpnreligions.weebly.com/new-religions.html

    The Wiki listing is actually pretty detailed and interesting ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_new_religions

    Gassho, Jundo

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    Last edited by Jundo; 09-29-2016 at 02:36 AM.
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    Thanks for asking Kaishin, I was curious about that too. Obviously people everywhere are searching for something spiritual... it is kind of like a koan in itself how we pick, choose or even create a religion based on what we want out of it.
    Which brings me to a question of my own: when I had my "sesshin interview " before attending sesshin at ZMM, the monastic who interviewed me wanted to know my goal/reason for wanting to do sesshin. I felt like my answers were not what he was looking for, although I was allowed to go. The same guy emphasized the importance of having a goal or a reason to sit later at an introductory talk at the monastery.
    I guess I still wonder about what is a "good reason to sit." I probably look for relief from suffering, like anyone else, but is that attainable if I set it out that way as a desire? Isn't that grasping/wanting? If there is a goal, it would seem to be "just being awake" without searching for anything, which is the non-attainable Buddha Way.
    Gassho
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    Jakuden, Try these keywords in your search engine: buddhism desire paradox

    My reason to sit: to save all beings. Might as well have big desires

    Faith-Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithMoon View Post
    Jakuden, Try these keywords in your search engine: buddhism desire paradox

    My reason to sit: to save all beings. Might as well have big desires

    Faith-Moon
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    Thanks! I actually came across an interesting thread here along with some other general info.

    Gassho,
    Jakuden
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