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    ATTENTION! Our "AT HOME" 2-DAY ROHATSU RETREAT - December 4th to 6th! BE READY!

     

    Dear All,

    a re-MINDer that our ...


    Treeleaf Annual
    'ALWAYS AT HOME' Two Day 'ALL ONLINE' ROHATSU

    (Buddha's Enlightenment Day)
    RETREAT



    ... is to be LIVE NETCAST on the weekend of Saturday & Sunday, December 5th and 6th, 2015(although actually beginning Friday Night December 4th in many time zones). The retreat is designed to be sat in any time zone around the world through a combination of 'live-live' and 'live though recorded' segments, and one may still join the Retreat and sit-a-long at ANY AND ALL TIME after, by the real time recorded version (no different from the original!). Please have a look at the schedule on the "official" page (although the page will remain locked until near the Retreat start time) ...





    (HERE IS THE LINK TO LAST YEAR SO YOU CAN GET A TASTE: 2014 RETREAT)

    We hope that all of our Ango-ers and others will find a way to sit with us. Through a combination of live and "any time" recorded segments, the retreat is designed to be sat any where, in any time zone, even days or weeks later, when you can arrange your schedule. The method is that you can do some of the portions "live" in your time zone, others in recorded form, and thus it fits everyone's time zone even if slightly out of order (no need to stay up all night to stay on "Japan Time"). In other words, sometimes we do some sections in Japan or other countries while you are asleep, but then you can do them later (while we are asleep), and some sections we are all awake to do "live" ... and it all gets done in the end. Everyone has to do their own math to figure out which portions they can do live, which they will do as a recording (and in what order).

    The two days will include Zazen sitting, Kinhin, Chanting, Zazen sitting, Oryoki, Zazen sitting, Bowing, Talks, 'Samu' Work Practice, and More Zazen Sitting, as in any Soto Zen Retreat, all in celebration of the Buddha's days of Zazen and Enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree. We also mark the Endless-End of our 90 Day Ango with this Retreat.

    If you are concerned about the length of sitting, please take to heart that such retreats ... of 2 or 3 days, a week or two weeks ... are basic and highly recommended in the Zen world, undertaken by just about every Zen Sangha I know. It is a practice not to be missed if at all possible for you.

    Information on the meaning of Rohatsu Retreat, and easy to follow instructions on arranging a quiet space in your home for sitting, are found at the following link. Also included are instructions on combining the Retreat with parenting and other responsibilities one may have. For further information on these and other topics, I ask all who are participating to DOWNLOAD AND REVIEW THIS GUIDE TO SITTING OUR ONLINE RETREAT LINK HERE (PDF)

    The accompanying CHANT BOOK IS HERE (PDF)

    * * *

    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON I -

    Below in this thread, we will provide various short lessons and tips to help you participate. Please review them between now and the days of the Retreat.

    First, the following video will explain a bit about how to make and dance with a simple, home Oryoki kit. All you need is:

    1 - Clean Pillow Case
    2 - Bowls and 1 Tea Cup (that fit into each other)
    1 - Cloth Napkin
    1 - Small Wiping Cloth
    1 - Table Spoon
    1 - Tea Spoon or Chop Sticks
    1 - Small Cut Piece of a New Sponge
    1 - Letter Envelope
    1 - A small dish on the side for the "Hungry Ghosts"






    Let's Get Ready to Rohatsu!




    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 10-31-2016 at 05:41 AM.
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    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON II -



    Let's look at Work Practice, Samu … which will be featured various periods during our Rohatsu Retreat.


    While Zazen is at the heart of our Way, other aspects of traditional Zen Practice are also "Zazen Off The Cushion" ... the vital and energetic non-doing of ‘Samu‘ traditional work practice is so.

    Samu is well described in this excerpt …

    Samu is manual work done with the same concentration as zazen. All masters of transmission, especially Master Hyakujo (720-814), have insisted on this. Even in his old age, Master Hyakujo worked every day in the field with his students. One day, they hid his tools, thinking that their master should spare himself. Hyakujo declared: "A day without working, a day without eating." And he stopped eating until his disciples gave him back his tools. 

    In zen, work has great value, because it allows us to practise the Way in action. In the dojo and during retreats (sesshins), zazen is followed by samu, which is when we do the chores to ensure the smooth functioning of communal life. Samu also means putting our efforts at the service of the community, without expecting anything in return. from Zen, by Bovay, Kaltenbach and De Smedt, Albin Michel Publishing, 1993
    Yes, Samu is just Zazen in action. It may not look like seated meditation, but it is to be done from the same state of mental balance. Couple this with an attitude of goalless, non-striving, ‘just doing’, also a hallmark of Zazen. As well, work is to be performed mindfully, as the only action in and of the whole universe : One engaged in Samu should devote to it all care and attention, never wishing for or thinking of anything else in that moment of action.

    The result is a job performed diligently and patiently and with certain goals, but with no thought of anything to achieve (of course, not a contradiction in Zen). It may be a continuing job that just needs to be done without end, but we do it with all care moment by moment by moment for the time we have.

    I usually describe Samu in a nutshell as working diligently and carefully at one's task trying to get 'er done all while, simultaneously, dropping all thought of any goal to attain or anywhere to get! (Yes, seems contradictory, like seeing things two ways at once, as one)

    For example, we clean the dishes trying to get them clean (because nobody wants filthy dishes!) ... all the while dropping all thought of "clean" vs. "dirty" and anything to achieve, thereby achieving a certain Purity that sweeps in and through both clean and dirty. Thus, we achieve a Clean that cleans up as both clean and dirty!

    Those parents and workers with heavy family or employment duties even during Retreat can make that part of that their ‘Samu’, approaching it with the mindset described above. Treat every changed diaper, cooked meal and bedtime story read during the Retreat as 'Samu'. Treat every staple stapled, copy made on the copy machine, customer greeted as 'Samu' if needing to work during part of the 'Retreat'.

    Now, if you can, and the weather permits, it is lovely to do some outdoor work for Samu. Or one can clean (beyond "clean vs. dirty") around the house. However, if someone has physical or other limitations, even small tasks are fine.

    In years past, I have gathered fall leaves and cleaned the bathtub (an activity, frankly, I usually do not enjoy!) ...






    ... but I also have scrubbed dirty coins with an old toothbrush, repeatedly washing the same coins for the entire period (a seemingly pointless activity ... and that is also the point!).


    All Good Samu, All Good Practice!


    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 11-16-2015 at 12:26 PM.
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    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON III -



    In preparation for our upcoming Treeleaf Annual 'AT HOME' Two Day 'ALL ONLINE' ROHATSU (Buddha's Enlightenment Day) RETREAT ... DETAILS ABOVE ...

    Going to the toilet is nature, is life, is Practice, is Zazen. All the Buddhas and Ancestors had to pee and poo, and so do you. But how we do our duty makes all the difference!

    Master Dogen devoted an entire chapter of Shobogenzo to latrine procedures (two chapters, actually!) ... and during our Retreat we should see going to the toilet as a sacred ritual. First, drop all thought of "clean" and "dirty" ... flush such discriminatory ideas away! However, even as we drop all idea of "clean" and "dirty", we try to stay clean (we are always working on several levels in Zen) ... so, if wearing a Rakusu, remove it and hang it outside the toilet room before entering. Then Gassho 3x (or, if you wish, do full prostrations 3x as monks do in traditional monasteries) toward the door of the toilet room and recite a 'Gatha' such as the following (by Ven. Thich Naht Hanh):

    Defiled or immaculate,
    increasing or decreasing--
    these concepts exist only in our mind.
    The reality of interbeing is unsurpassed.


    Of course, maintain silence in the bog. No reading material and, while one need not assume the Full Lotus Posture on the commode, one should do one's business with the sense of stillness-in-motion and non-attaining that is Zazen. Go with with Flow!

    Truly, peeing is only action in that moment, a perfect act complete unto itself ... it is not you peeing, or even the whole universe peeing in that instant (although it is that too) ... for 'tis Just Peeing. On exiting, bow again 3x to the toilet door and recite a Gatha such as ...

    Using the toilet I vow with all beings to eliminate defilement, removing greed, anger and ignorance.

    Then be sure to wash your hands (there is something to recite for that as well) ... By the way, a similar ritual should be performed prior to entering the bath or shower. In that case, please recite a Gatha such as ...

    Bathing the body,
    may all living beings
    be clean in body and mind,
    pure and shining within and without.


    We will have similar recitals of "Gatha" for use when brushing the teeth, washing the face and hands. They are printed in our "Chant Book" HERE (PDF), available for download for use during the Retreat.


    For our upcoming Rohatsu Retreat, PLEASE PRINT OUT THE GATHAS IN OUR CHANT BOOK AND POST THEM AROUND YOUR BATHROOM!! IT IS ALL SACRED!

    More here ...


    Gassho, Jundo


    PS - By the way, if one would like to see Master Dogen's actual "rules" for the Toilet (called the "Tosu", the "Eastern Hall", in a Zen monastery), you may be rather surprised. A most detailed ritual, right down to the squatting and clean-up. Please feel free to adapt any of this you wish, including the spatula, ash and pebbles.

    After monks began to reside in temple quarters, they constructed a building that they referred to as ‘the Eastern Quarters’. Sometimes it was called a water closet and at other times a lavatory. It is absolutely essential to have a lavatory in a place where a family of monks resides.

    When going to the Eastern Quarters, you should be sure to take a hand towel with you. The way to do this is to fold the hand towel in half and put it over your left shoulder, letting it hang down over the sleeve of your gown. When you have arrived at the Eastern Quarters, you should hang your towel over the clean-clothes pole. Hang it in the same way it was when it was hanging on your shoulder.

    If you come wearing a nine- or seven-striped kesa,* you should be sure to hang it next to your towel. You should hang it so that it will not fall off. Do not hastily toss it over the pole. You should be sure to pay particular attention to the name marker. The name marker is for putting your name on the pole. Write your name on a piece of white paper in the shape of a full moon and then align this marker on the rack. We use a name marker so that we will not forget where we have put our robe. When our monks come in numbers, we must be sure not to confuse our place on the rack with that of others.
    If a number of monks come and line up at this time, make shashu* and bow in greeting to the others. When bowing in greeting, you need not bow deeply: simply hold your hands in shashu before your chest and bow in recognition of the others. When in the Eastern Quarters, we acknowledge the monks assembled by bowing to them even when we are not in our robes. If your two hands are not occupied or you are not carrying something in them, you should keep them in shashu and bow.

    If one of your hands is already occupied, or when you are carrying something in one hand, you should make your bow with a one-handed gasshō.* In bowing with a one-handed gasshō, the hand is raised, with the fingers slightly cupped as if you were going to use the hand to scoop up water; the head is lowered slightly, as in greeting. When another monk behaves in this way towards us, we should behave similarly: when we behave in this way, the other monk should do likewise.

    The procedure for taking off your undershirt and outer robe is to remove your robe along with the undershirt by bringing the two sleeves together in back, putting the two arm holes together, and lifting up the sleeves. You then fold the two sleeves, one atop the other, over the garment. Next, with the left hand, grasp the back of the collars and, with the right hand, draw up the robe and fold it down the middle of the sleeve bags7 and the two collars. Having folded over the two sleeves and collars, you again fold the robe in two, lengthwise, and drape it over the pole with the collars on the far side; the skirt of the robe and the sleeve cuffs hang on the near side of the pole. That is to say, the robe hangs at the waist over the pole.

    Next, avoid mistaking whose towel is whose when there are two poles and two towels are hanging one in front of the other. So that your towel does not get separated from your robe or get taken by someone who has not hung up a towel, tie it down by wrapping it around your robe two or three times and tying it, without letting your robe fall onto the ground. Then, facing your robe, you make gasshō.

    Next, you take a sash cord and hang it over your shoulders. Then go to the wash stand and fill a clean bucket with water; carrying the bucket with your right hand, go into a toilet stall. In putting water in the bucket, do not fill it to the brim, but fill it up nine-tenths of the way.

    When you reach the lavatory door, you should change your slippers. Put on a pair of rush slippers, leaving your own slippers by the front of the lavatory door. This is what is meant by ‘changing slippers’.

    It says in the Procedures for Cleanliness in a Zen Temple, “When you need to go to the Eastern Quarters, by all means anticipate this need. Deal with it in time, so that you do not hurry from urgency. Give yourself time to fold your kesa, and leave it on your table in the Monks’ Quarters or on the clean pole in the lavatory.”

    Upon entering the toilet stall, close the door with your left hand. You next pour just a little water from your bucket into the toilet basin. Next, put the bucket in front of you in the place provided for it. Then, while standing, face the basin and snap your fingers three times. Whilst snapping your fingers, your left hand is held in a fist at your left side at waist level. Next, you lift and gather up your under-skirt by its corners, face the door and, straddling the basin between your feet, squat down and relieve yourself. Do not soil either side of your garments; do not let them get stained front or back. During this time, you should remain silent. Do not talk or joke with the person in the next stall, chant, sing, or recite anything aloud. Do not spit or blow mucus from your nose onto the area around you. Do not strain or make grunting sounds excessively. You should not write on the walls. Do not dig at or draw on the ground with your toilet spatula; it should be used for cleaning yourself after you have evacuated your bowels. Also, if you use paper, you should not use old paper or paper with characters written on it.

    You should keep in mind the difference between a clean spatula and a soiled one. The spatula is eight inches long, triangular in shape. In thickness, it is the width of one’s thumb. Some are lacquered, others are not. Put your soiled spatula in the used spatula box. Clean ones will already be in the spatula stand. The spatula stand is kept near the sign in front of the toilet basin. After using a spatula or paper, the way you clean yourself is as follows: hold the bucket in your right hand and moisten your left hand well. Then, cupping some water in your left hand, you first clean off your genitals three times. Then, you wash your buttocks. This is the way you should clean yourself.

    Do not tip the bucket roughly, spilling the water into your hand and quickly using it all up. After you have finished cleaning yourself, put the bucket down in its proper place; then, take the used spatula and wipe it clean and dry with paper. You should wipe your genitals and buttocks dry. Next, adjust your under-skirt and robe with your right hand, and, also with your right hand, pick up the bucket. Then go out the door, take off the rush slippers, and put on your own. Next, you return to the wash stand and put the bucket in its original place.

    Next, you should wash your hands. With your right hand you take a spoonful of ashes, place it atop some pebbles, drip some water on them, and wash your contacting hand with your right hand,9 using the pebbles to scour it, just as though you were cleaning rust off a sword. You should wash with ashes in this manner three times. Then, you should take some sand, add some water, and wash three times. Next, take some cleansing powder made from ground orange seeds in your right hand, moisten it with water from the small bucket, and wash by rubbing your hands together. The washing should be done thoroughly, even up your forearms. You should wholeheartedly devote your attention to washing in a conscientious manner. Ashes thrice, sand thrice, and cleansing powder once—all together seven times, an appropriate number. Next, you wash in a large bucket. This time, you simply wash in cold or warm water, without using any cleanser, sand, or ashes. After washing once, transfer that water into the small bucket, put in fresh water, and rinse both hands. In the Avatamsaka Scripture, a verse says:
    When washing your hands,

    By all means pray that all sentient beings
    May acquire the finest hands
    With which to receive the Buddha’s Teachings.

    When you use a water ladle, you should, of course, hold it with your right hand. When using it, do so quietly, without making a great noise with bucket or ladle. Do not splash water about, scatter the cleansing powder, or get the area around the water stand wet. That is to say, do not be hasty or careless: do not be disorderly with things or treat them roughly.

    Next, you dry your hands with the towel for general use or dry them with your own towel. Once you have finished drying your hands, go to where your robe is hanging over the pole, undo the sash cord, and hang the cord over the pole. Next, hang your towel over your left shoulder and rub some incense on yourself. There is rubbing incense for general use. It is made of fragrant wood in the shape of small vials. The size of each is about the thickness of a thumb and four times that amount in length. You take a piece of string about a foot long and thread it through the holes that are bored in each end of the incense stick. This is hung over the pole. When you rub it between the palms of your hands, the fragrance of this incense will naturally impregnate your hands.
    When you hang your sash cord over the pole, do not hang it over another one so that they become entangled, and do not leave it in a disorderly fashion.

    When matters are handled in this way, everything will be a purified Buddha Land, a Buddha World well adorned. You should do everything with care, without a lapse: you should not act from haste, as though in a dither. Do not entertain the thought, “If I hurry, I can get back to what I was doing.” You should keep in mind the principle that, when you go to the Eastern Quarters, the Buddha’s Dharma is not something to be talked about, but lived.

    Do not stare at the faces of monks coming and going.

    In cleansing yourself whilst in the lavatory, it is fine to use cool water, since it is said that hot water may cause diarrhea. Using warm water to wash your hands will not prove disturbing to your health. A kettle has been provided for heating water to wash your hands with.

    Concerning the duties of the monk in charge of the lavatory, it says in the Procedures for Cleanliness in a Zen Temple, “Later in the evening, see that water is heated and oil is put out for the night lamp. Always make sure that there is someone to take over the boiling of the water, and do not let the community do it with a discriminatory attitude.” From this it is clear that both hot and cold water are used.

    If the interior of the lavatory becomes dirty, you should screen off the entry door and hang the sign that says ‘Dirty’ on it. If a bucket is accidentally knocked over, you should screen off the entry door and hang up the ‘Spilled Bucket’ sign. Do not enter the building when such signs have been put up.

    Even though you may have already entered a stall, if there is someone else who snaps his fingers to let you know of his presence, you should leave shortly.
    http://www.thezensite.com/ZenTeachin...o/007senjo.pdf
    and it goes on like that a bit more ... similar rules exist for tooth brushing, face washing and such ...

    Our procedures for this Retreat are somewhat abbreviated!

    Here is an image of a traditional Tosu (Eastern Hall) in a Zen Monastery in Japan. As you can see, it has an Altar too.



    The image there is the Buddha Ususama-myoo (seen here at the entrance to another Tosu), also called Katokongoo, symbolizes the virtue of purification, and is said to transform impurities.

    Last edited by Jundo; 12-05-2016 at 03:19 AM.
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    If you would like to watch a brief video of formal Sesshin atmosphere (not much different on ordinary days there in fact) at Eiheiji Monastery, including such customs as Samu Work and Oryoki ...

    ... in our Treeleaf Retreat we try to bring a taste of such into our own homes and daily life ...

    Our way is certainly not as rigorous as the life of these young monks in training. However, do not think that such a place is more and our way is less ... for we can Sit and Work and Eat beyond and right through all measures and distinctions. Our way is not quite the same, but neither is it different in the least. It is my belief that one can encounter the same lessons, the same freedom, the same opening of the mind even in our little Retreat if one knows how to look within and without free of border. Our own life can be a place of good Practice, and a source of Wisdom and Compassion, as much as any monastery. Your life too, right where you sit and work at a job and take care of your family and social responsibilities is Relentless Practice.

    As I always tell our priests-in-training here at Treeleaf, the seriousness of the Practice depends on one's own diligence, care, persistence, sincerity and attention to the Practice before one in this moment.

    Zazen is not a matter of long or short. One must sit dropping all measure, tasting in one's bones that every single instant of Zazen is all time (and all timeless too)! One must sit throwing the clock away! And yet ... and yet ... (Zen folks often speak out of both sides of their no sided mouth) ... and yet ... sometimes, we need to practice a bit long and hard, morning to night ... sitting and wrestling with 'me, my self and I' ... all to attain 'Nothing More to Attain', and to taste 'Just This'. It is also not a matter of place ... and we should "sit Zazen" too in the hospital bed, death bed, nursery room, grocery line, city bus. Nonetheless, we go to the Retreat sometimes to sit in a room on a Zafu, precisely because it is not a matter of "where" or "place."

    Our Retreat may be short by the clock and held from home, but can be a Serious Endeavor nonetheless.

    And, no, I will not be hitting anyone with the Keisaku stick.


    Gassho, J

    SatToday
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    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON IV -

    We have some Bowing and Prostrations during our annual retreat ... especially times of prostrating (Raihai), done in a series or three (Sanpai) ...

    Many Westerners don't care for it, because it is not part of our culture generally. We see it as humiliating, embarrassing, somehow "idol worshipping" or undemocratic. I am often asked to whom or what we are bowing ... Is it to some thing, god, place like Mecca, person or effigy?


    I answer by saying that there is nothing that's true that is omitted from our bow. We might consider that we're simply bowing to the whole universe, and to ourself and the other people around us … after all, 'All is One'! The hands, palms upwards, are raised in a gesture traditionally symbolic of lifting the Buddha's feet over one's head, but that truly means lifting all things of the universe over one's head. It's appropriate to cultivate an attitude of emptying, letting go, receptivity and gratitude in our bows.

    I do not necessarily think anything when bowing ... although I usually feel in my heart that "Great Gratitude" I sometimes mention.

    If there is some physical or personal reason not to prostrate, a simple deep standing Gassho can be substituted. However, there is greatness in the humility of the prostration.

    No less, are we raising something up or ... seen another way ... is the whole world raising us up at the same time?

    The Korean Zen folks are very big with the Prostrations, often recommending at least 108 each day. This site also has some good pictures on "how to" Prostrate.

    http://london-zen-centre.weebly.com/...strations.html

    It is a powerful physical Practice. These days, I usually practice a deep Gassho during our Zazenkai and such. However, I engage in Prostrations also, during our more formal monthly Zazenkai, Rohatsu Retreat and like times.

    Many Tibetans (many Christians pilgrims too) will travel for hundreds of miles, prostrating with each step ...


    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday




    (Usually repeated in groups of 3x)
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    I was just mentioning at the Tea Party yesterday that the four hour sits were difficult for me and that
    I had never done a long sesshin. This is as scary as sewing, but sewing has been doable, so hopefully this will be too!
    Gassho,
    Sierra
    SatToday

  7. #7
    I will be there, thank you!
    Those of us currently sewing a Rakasu, do we bring and wear at this Rohatsu or do we do this next year after we've taken Jukai?

    Gassho,
    Rodney #sattoday

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    I will be there, thank you!
    Those of us currently sewing a Rakasu, do we bring and wear at this Rohatsu or do we do this next year after we've taken Jukai?

    Gassho,
    Rodney #sattoday
    Hi Rodney,

    Well, you would not wear the Rakusu this time as you actually have not received it yet.

    See you there.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Hi Rodney,

    Well, you would not wear the Rakusu this time as you actually have not received it yet.

    See you there.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
    I have previously taken precepts years ago in the Kwan Um School of Zen and still wear mine when I go to my local temple (which is Korean but not Kwan Um School). It's it OK for me to wear here?

    -Sam

    #SatToday

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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SonofRage View Post
    I have previously taken precepts years ago in the Kwan Um School of Zen and still wear mine when I go to my local temple (which is Korean but not Kwan Um School). It's it OK for me to wear here?

    -Sam

    #SatToday

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    Of course.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
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  11. #11
    Makes good sense. Thanks Jundo
    Looking forward
    Gassho
    Rodney #sattoday


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    万磴 (Myriad StoneSteps)

  12. #12
    Mp
    Guest
    Wonderful, thank you Jundo ... exciting times ahead. Looking forward to sitting and practicing with you all. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    #sattoday

  13. #13
    Hoping that my travel schedule isn't going to interfere with that weekend. Rohatsu was a highlight of my practice year last year!

    Gassho,
    Anshu

    -sat today-

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    JUST A SCHEDULING UPDATE:

    I AM ADJUSTING THE SCHEDULE NOW TO BETTER FIT NORTH AMERICA and EUROPE.

    In most time Zones, the Retreat will be on Saturday and Sunday only, during daytime and evening hours (and will not begin as in past years on Friday night in some time zones).

    I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN THE FINAL SCHEDULE IS SET (I should have it finalized in soon).

    Gassho, Jundo


    PS - Sorry Anshu. Asia will have it a bit rough this time.
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  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    PS - Sorry Anshu. Asia will have it a bit rough this time.

    No problem. I'll just have to embrace the 'suchness'...

    As I've said above, I might be 'on the road' that weekend, so I might have to sit it all on the next free weekend anyway...

    And, as Doris' wise mother said, "Whatever will be, will be"...!

    Gassho,
    Anshu

    -sat today-
    Last edited by Anshu Bryson; 11-17-2015 at 05:58 AM.

  16. #16
    Mp
    Guest
    Thank you for the update Jundo and all the hard work you have put into getting these times balanced out. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    #sattoday

  17. #17
    I hope good sitting in Rohatsu!I will sit at Antaiji but same mind during Zazen period!And cleaning floor like cleaning your mind at your birth time!

    Gassho


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  18. #18
    I'm looking forward to it and have already mentioned it to my family so that they may be prepared.

    Gassho

    Clarisse Sat2Day


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  19. #19
    Thank you, Jundo.
    It's been only recently that I've got accustomed to the 4 hour zazenkais and this one will be a bit
    of challenge to me. That's why I'm looking forward to participate in the retreat the fullest possible.
    I intend to sit in combination "live" and the recordings though.

    Gassho
    Sergey
    sat-today

  20. #20
    I will participate.

    Gassho
    Randy
    sit soon

  21. #21
    May I ask a question about scheduling?

    I can sit on the Saturday while my children are at their dad's but have nobody to help me with them on Sunday. I welcome the idea of making parenting part of our work period but realistically doubt I'll get any sitting done at all with them around. Would it be preferable to sit Saturday (live) and Monday (with recording)? Or to move the whole retreat to a later date when I can sit the two together? Or just sit Saturday and then treat Sunday as almost entirely samu?

    Thank you.

    Gassho

    Libby (just sat)

  22. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Libby View Post
    May I ask a question about scheduling?

    I can sit on the Saturday while my children are at their dad's but have nobody to help me with them on Sunday. I welcome the idea of making parenting part of our work period but realistically doubt I'll get any sitting done at all with them around. Would it be preferable to sit Saturday (live) and Monday (with recording)? Or to move the whole retreat to a later date when I can sit the two together? Or just sit Saturday and then treat Sunday as almost entirely samu?

    Thank you.

    Gassho

    Libby (just sat)
    Hi Libby,

    Either way is fine, so long as you make the say with your kids on Sunday the "third day" of the Retreat. Understand? It is not an interruption of the Retreat in any way, just a continuation.

    Gassho, Jundo
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  23. #23
    Thank you Jundo.

  24. #24
    Ah, thanks, Sergey. I was starting to think I was the only one that wasn't thinking this would be a breeze! I too intend to try to participate to the fullest! I can just imagine how my brain is going to be screaming at me all weekend to be doing other things rather than sitting facing the wall. It will be much-needed practice, for sure.

    Gassho,
    Sierra
    SatToday

  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra529 View Post
    Ah, thanks, Sergey. I was starting to think I was the only one that wasn't thinking this would be a breeze! I too intend to try to participate to the fullest! I can just imagine how my brain is going to be screaming at me all weekend to be doing other things rather than sitting facing the wall. It will be much-needed practice, for sure.

    Gassho,
    Sierra
    SatToday
    Yes, the "little self" does not want to sit "doing nothing" ...

    ... which is why this is so important, when when the preciousness of "Just Sitting" is truly tasted, is "Doing Everything" with the "little self" out of a job!

    Gassho, J

    SatToday
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  26. #26
    I look forward to this very much. I will be traveling by train that weekend, and will sit in honor of Rohatsu, during the journey, and then dedicate a subsequent weekend to the full two-day retreat.

    Konan--yes, cleaning the kitchen floor, especially the corners and the edges where it meets the wall and cabinets. The mind is full of stale crumbs and old thoughts.

    Gassho
    Trish
    sat today

  27. #27
    Nindo
    Guest
    Looking forward to it. I haven't had a retreat since a weekend in March. However, I will shift to December 17 & 18 due to my musical commitments at Rohatsu. If anybody else would like to join then, you are welcome!

    Gassho
    Nindo
    sattoday

  28. #28
    Thank you Jundo!

    Looking forward to participate.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
    #SatToday
    Hondō Kyōnin
    奔道 協忍

  29. #29
    Jundo,

    i want to say Thank You for all the effort in organizing this retreat.


    Gassho

    Randy
    sattoday

  30. #30
    Yes thank you very much, it's an amazing opportunity and so appreciated.

    Gassho,
    Sierra
    SatToday

  31. #31
    Thank you everyone involved in organizing and doing the retreat parts.
    I am looking very much forward to it and will participate as best I can then.
    As the other thread is closed, thank you Shoka for the spreadsheet, it is very helpful to me because my scatterbrains would have messed all thingds up otherwise .

    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday

  32. #32
    I've been looking forward to this sesshin. I'll definitely be there.
    _/st\_ Shinzan

  33. #33
    I would very much like to participate, especially as I'm taking part in Jukai this year. But circumstances at home, namely a 4month old, a 2yr old and a frazzled Mum demand my full attention day and night. That said, I will try to engage as best I can.


    Gassho

    Sam

    #sat-today

  34. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I would very much like to participate, especially as I'm taking part in Jukai this year. But circumstances at home, namely a 4month old, a 2yr old and a frazzled Mum demand my full attention day and night. That said, I will try to engage as best I can.


    Gassho

    Sam

    #sat-today
    Yes, your Jukai and Retreat is all of that flowing effortlessly into each other. So long as you try with sincere intentions, and just do what you can, it is all good.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  35. #35
    Treeleaf Unsui Shugen's Avatar
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    Sounds like Zen practice to me Sam!

    Gassho,

    Shugen

    #sattoday


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    Meido Shugen
    明道 修眼

  36. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Shugen View Post
    Sounds like Zen practice to me Sam!

    Gassho,

    Shugen

    #sattoday


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    Thanks Shugen, they provide every opportunity I need to practice.


    Gassho

    Sam

    #sat-today

  37. #37
    Thank you Jundo. I will do so,


    Gassho

    Sam

    #sat-today

  38. #38
    I will be participating in rohatsu. Thank you Jundo for organizing and for the other priests who will be helping.

    Gassho,
    Matt
    #SatToday

  39. #39
    I think I will need to space it out a bit or choose a different weekend. My job is currently hectic and sporadic. Two of the people i help take care of are having medical issues. I will still be sitting with you all... Just in different times.

    Gassho, Entai
    #SatToday

    泰 Entai (Bill)
    "this is not a dress rehearsal"

  40. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Entai View Post
    I think I will need to space it out a bit or choose a different weekend. My job is currently hectic and sporadic. Two of the people i help take care of are having medical issues. I will still be sitting with you all... Just in different times.

    Gassho, Entai
    #SatToday
    Hi Entai,

    It is fine to do what needs to be done because life requires. Also, taking care of people with medical issues, plus you hectic job ... all part of the Retreat Unbroken.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  41. #41
    Joyo
    Guest
    Thank you very much for all your hard work and dedication to this retreat, Jundo, and to all the priests that will be helping out as well.

    Sam, I was the frazzled mom once upon a time also with a baby and a toddler. Sounds like you are a big support to your family. =)

    Gassho,
    Joyo
    sat today

  42. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Joyo View Post

    Sam, I was the frazzled mom once upon a time also with a baby and a toddler. Sounds like you are a big support to your family. =)
    Thank you Joyo.
    I feel very privileged. Parenthood has also been the final spur I needed to actively try to walk this path. What a fantastic resource Treeleaf is proving to be. I cannot thank Jundo and the sangha enough.
    I must confess, the regular sleepless nights do however frequently cause sleepy zazen. But, as with all, I try my best....




    Gassho

    Sam

    #sat-today

  43. #43
    Dear Jundo,

    I will be traveling from this Friday until Dec 13, so will be unable to sit face-to-face for a couple of weeks, including the Rohatsu retreat; I will 'catch up' on my return...

    Gassho,
    Anshu

    -sat today-

  44. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Anshu Bryson View Post
    Dear Jundo,

    I will be traveling from this Friday until Dec 13, so will be unable to sit face-to-face for a couple of weeks, including the Rohatsu retreat; I will 'catch up' on my return...

    Gassho,
    Anshu

    -sat today-
    You will still be with us, all time and distance placed aside.

    Gassho, J

    SatToday
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  45. #45
    Member Getchi's Avatar
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    Location
    Between Sea and Sky, Australia.
    i will be there for sure.
    sam good luck, my two year old is now six, the toddler four mum gets to sleep everynight (sometimes all night) and im windering where the time went.
    w
    ould do again

    sattodayge
    off
    Nothing to do? Why not Sit?

  46. #46
    My family, wife, son, and mom-in-law, have said they are planning a mini vacation for the 5th and 6th so i can focus on our retreat. This is very thoughtful and i am very grateful. What a wonderful opportunity to deepen practice.

    Gassho
    Daizan
    Sat today

  47. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Daizan View Post
    My family, wife, son, and mom-in-law, have said they are planning a mini vacation for the 5th and 6th so i can focus on our retreat. This is very thoughtful and i am very grateful. What a wonderful opportunity to deepen practice.

    Gassho
    Daizan
    Sat today
    My wife visited her family last year to give me space for Rohatsu. It is in her nature to be considerate of others (even me!)

    Gassho,
    Anshu

    -st-

  48. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Daizan View Post
    My family, wife, son, and mom-in-law, have said they are planning a mini vacation for the 5th and 6th so i can focus on our retreat. This is very thoughtful and i am very grateful. What a wonderful opportunity to deepen practice.

    Gassho
    Daizan
    Sat today
    So nice of them my granddaughter is going to spend time with her mom for the retreat days but I still have to care for my ill dad.

    I may or may not participate one way. If I decide to participate two way and you happen to look at your screen and see an old man wandering around in his pajamas with his walker send a silent "hi pops" his way

    Gassho

    Clarisse Sat2Day


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  49. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by CK732 View Post
    So nice of them my granddaughter is going to spend time with her mom for the retreat days but I still have to care for my ill dad.

    I may or may not participate one way. If I decide to participate two way and you happen to look at your screen and see an old man wandering around in his pajamas with his walker send a silent "hi pops" his way

    Gassho

    Clarisse Sat2Day


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    From here, Pops is more than welcome.

    Gassho,
    Sierra
    SatToday

  50. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Daizan View Post
    I'll give Pops a wave

    Gassho
    Daizan

    Sat today
    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra529 View Post
    From here, Pops is more than welcome.

    Gassho,
    Sierra
    SatToday
    Thanks Daizan and Sierra you two are awesome!

    Gassho

    Clarisse Sat2Day


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