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    ATTENTION! Our "AT HOME" 2-DAY ROHATSU RETREAT - December 5th to 7th! BE READY!

     

    Dear All,

    a re-MINDer that our Treeleaf Annual 'AT HOME' Two Day 'ALL ONLINE' ROHATSU (Buddha's Enlightenment Day) RETREAT is to be LIVE NETCAST on the weekend of Saturday & Sunday, December 6th and 7th, 2014 (though starting Friday night December 5th in some time zones). The retreat is designed to be sat in any time zone around the world through a combination of 'live-live' and 'live though recorded' segments, and one may still join the Retreat and sit-a-long at ANY AND ALL TIME after, by the real time recorded version (no different from the original!). Please have a look at the schedule on the "official" page (although the page will remain locked until near the Retreat start time) ...


    We hope that all of our Ango-ers and others will find a way to sit with us. Through a combination of live and "any time" recorded segments, the retreat is designed to be sat any where, in any time zone, even days or weeks later, when you can arrange your schedule. The method is that you can do some of the portions "live" in your time zone, others in recorded form, and thus it fits everyone's time zone even if slightly out of order (no need to stay up all night to stay on "Japan Time"). In other words, sometimes we do some sections in Japan or other countries while you are asleep, but then you can do them later (while we are asleep), and some sections we are all awake to do "live" ... and it all gets done in the end. Everyone has to do their own math to figure out which portions they can do live, which they will do as a recording (and in what order).

    The two days will include Zazen sitting, Kinhin, Chanting, Zazen sitting, Oryoki, Zazen sitting, Bowing, Talks, 'Samu' Work Practice, and More Zazen Sitting, as in any Soto Zen Retreat, all in celebration of the Buddha's days of Zazen and Enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree. We also mark the Endless-End of our 90 Day Ango with this Retreat.

    If you are concerned about the length of sitting, please take to heart that such retreats ... of 2 or 3 days, a week or two weeks ... are basic and highly recommended in the Zen world, undertaken by just about every Zen Sangha I know. It is a practice not to be missed if at all possible for you.

    Information on the meaning of Rohatsu Retreat, and easy to follow instructions on arranging a quiet space in your home for sitting, are found at the following link. Also included are instructions on combining the Retreat with parenting and other responsibilities one may have. For further information on these and other topics, I ask all who are participating to DOWNLOAD AND REVIEW THIS GUIDE TO SITTING OUR ONLINE RETREAT LINK HERE (PDF)

    The accompanying CHANT BOOK IS HERE (PDF)

    NOTE THAT THE ABOVE "GUIDE TO SITTING" AND "CHANT BOOK" HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY REVISED FROM PRIOR YEARS.

    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON I -

    In the coming days leading up to the Retreat, we will provide various short lessons and tips to help you participate.

    First, the following video will explain a bit about how to make and dance with a simple, home Oryoki kit. All you need is:

    1 - Clean Pillow Case
    2 - Bowls and 1 Tea Cup (that fit into each other)
    1 - Cloth Napkin
    1 - Small Wiping Cloth
    1 - Table Spoon
    1 - Tea Spoon or Chop Sticks
    1 - Small Cut Piece of a New Sponge
    1 - Letter Envelope
    1 - A small dish on the side for the "Hungry Ghosts"



    Let's Get Ready to Rohatsu!

    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 11-16-2014 at 02:04 AM.
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    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON II -



    In preparation for our upcoming Treeleaf Annual 'AT HOME' Two Day 'ALL ONLINE' ROHATSU (Buddha's Enlightenment Day) RETREAT ... to be LIVE NETCAST on the weekend of Saturday & Sunday, December 7 and 8, 2012 (though starting Friday night in some time zones) ... DETAILS ABOVE ...

    Going to the toilet is nature, is life, is Practice, is Zazen. All the Buddhas and Ancestors had to pee and poo, and so do you. But how we do our duty makes all the difference!

    Master Dogen devoted an entire chapter of Shobogenzo to latrine procedures (two chapters, actually!) ... and during our Retreat we should see going to the toilet as a sacred ritual. First, drop all thought of "clean" and "dirty" ... flush such discriminatory ideas away! However, even as we drop all idea of "clean" and "dirty", we try to stay clean (we are always working on several levels in Zen) ... so, if wearing a Rakusu, remove it and hang it outside the toilet room before entering. Then Gassho 3x (or, if you wish, do full prostrations 3x as monks do in traditional monasteries) toward the door of the toilet room and recite a 'Gatha' such as the following (by Ven. Thich Naht Hanh):

    Defiled or immaculate,
    increasing or decreasing--
    these concepts exist only in our mind.
    The reality of interbeing is unsurpassed.


    Of course, maintain silence in the bog. No reading material and, while one need not assume the Full Lotus Posture on the commode, one should do one's business with the sense of stillness-in-motion and non-attaining that is Zazen. Go with with Flow!

    Truly, peeing is only action in that moment, a perfect act complete unto itself ... it is not you peeing, or even the whole universe peeing in that instant (although it is that too) ... for 'tis Just Peeing. On exiting, bow again 3x to the toilet door and recite a Gatha such as ...

    Using the toilet I vow with all beings to eliminate defilement, removing greed, anger and ignorance.

    Then be sure to wash your hands (there is something to recite for that as well) ... By the way, a similar ritual should be performed prior to entering the bath or shower. In that case, please recite a Gatha such as ...

    Bathing the body,
    may all living beings
    be clean in body and mind,
    pure and shining within and without.


    We will have similar recitals of "Gatha" for use when brushing the teeth, washing the face and hands. They are printed in our "Chant Book" HERE (PDF), available for download for use during the Retreat.


    For our upcoming Rohatsu Retreat, PLEASE PRINT OUT THE GATHAS IN OUR CHANT BOOK AND POST THEM AROUND YOUR BATHROOM!! IT IS ALL SACRED!

    More here ...



    Gassho, Jundo

    SAT TODAY!
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    Thank you Teacher.

    *washing the visitors' loin-cloth.*


    Gassho,
    Myosha sat today
    Last edited by Myosha; 11-15-2014 at 07:29 PM.
    "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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    Mp
    Guest
    Wonderful Jundo ... thank you. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    #SatToday

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    Gassho Heisoku
    # sat today
    Heisoku 平 息
    Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home. (Basho)

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    Kyotai
    Guest
    Excellent. I look forward to participating when I can. Gassho, Shawn
    Sat today

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    Thank you Jundo.

    I'm looking forward to this!

    Gassho
    Lisa
    sat today

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    Hi.

    Will be on a academic retreat of my own with my university study group in rural Denmark to complete semester exam paper. Will make good use of the recorded versions.

    Gassho
    Aske
    #SAT TODAY!
    ~ Please remember that I am very fallible.

    Gassho
    Meikyo

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    Thank you, Jundo

    Gassho
    John
    sat today

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    By the way, if one would like to see Master Dogen's actual "rules" for the Toilet (called the "Tosu", the "Eastern Hall", in a Zen monastery), you may be rather surprised. A most detailed ritual, right down to the squatting and clean-up. Please feel free to adapt any of this you wish, including the spatula, ash and pebbles.

    After monks began to reside in temple quarters, they constructed a building that they referred to as ‘the Eastern Quarters’. Sometimes it was called a water closet and at other times a lavatory. It is absolutely essential to have a lavatory in a place where a family of monks resides.
    When going to the Eastern Quarters, you should be sure to take a hand towel with you. The way to do this is to fold the hand towel in half and put it over your left shoulder, letting it hang down over the sleeve of your gown. When you have
    arrived at the Eastern Quarters, you should hang your towel over the clean-clothes pole. Hang it in the same way it was when it was hanging on your shoulder. If you come wearing a nine- or seven-striped kesa,* you should be sure to hang it next to your towel. You should hang it so that it will not fall off. Do not hastily toss it over the pole.
    You should be sure to pay particular attention to the name marker. The name marker is for putting your name on the pole. Write your name on a piece of white paper in the shape of a full moon and then align this marker on the rack. We use a name marker so that we will not forget where we have put our robe. When our monks come in numbers, we must be sure not to confuse our place on the rack with that of others.
    If a number of monks come and line up at this time, make shashu* and bow in greeting to the others. When bowing in greeting, you need not bow deeply: simply hold your hands in shashu before your chest and bow in recognition of the others. When in the Eastern Quarters, we acknowledge the monks assembled by bowing to them even when we are not in our robes. If your two hands are not occupied or you are not carrying something in them, you should keep them in shashu and bow.
    If one of your hands is already occupied, or when you are carrying something in one hand, you should make your bow with a one-handed gasshō.* In bowing with a one-handed gasshō, the hand is raised, with the fingers slightly cupped as if you were going to use the hand to scoop up water; the head is lowered slightly, as in greeting. When another monk behaves in this way towards us, we should behave similarly: when we behave in this way, the other monk should do likewise.
    The procedure for taking off your undershirt and outer robe is to remove your robe along with the undershirt by bringing the two sleeves together in back, putting the two arm holes together, and lifting up the sleeves. You then fold the two sleeves, one atop the other, over the garment. Next, with the left hand, grasp the back of the collars and, with the right hand, draw up the robe and fold it down the middle of the sleeve bags7 and the two collars. Having folded over the two sleeves and collars, you again fold the robe in two, lengthwise, and drape it over the pole with the collars on the far side; the skirt of the robe and the sleeve cuffs hang on the near side of the pole. That is to say, the robe hangs at the waist over the pole.
    Next, avoid mistaking whose towel is whose when there are two poles and two towels are hanging one in front of the other. So that your towel does not get separated from your robe or get taken by someone who has not hung up a towel, tie it down by wrapping it around your robe two or three times and tying it, without letting your robe fall onto the ground. Then, facing your robe, you make gasshō.
    Next, you take a sash cord and hang it over your shoulders.8 Then go to the wash stand and fill a clean bucket with water; carrying the bucket with your right hand, go into a toilet stall. In putting water in the bucket, do not fill it to the brim, but fill it up nine-tenths of the way.
    When you reach the lavatory door, you should change your slippers. Put on a pair of rush slippers, leaving your own slippers by the front of the lavatory door. This is what is meant by ‘changing slippers’.

    It says in the Procedures for Cleanliness in a Zen Temple, “When you need to go to the Eastern Quarters, by all means anticipate this need. Deal with it in time, so that you do not hurry from urgency. Give yourself time to fold your kesa, and leave it on your table in the Monks’ Quarters or on the clean pole in the lavatory.”
    Upon entering the toilet stall, close the door with your left hand. You next pour just a little water from your bucket into the toilet basin. Next, put the bucket in front of you in the place provided for it. Then, while standing, face the basin and snap your fingers three times. Whilst snapping your fingers, your left hand is held in a fist at your left side at waist level. Next, you lift and gather up your under-skirt by its corners, face the door and, straddling the basin between your feet, squat down and relieve yourself. Do not soil either side of your garments; do not let them get stained front or back. During this time, you should remain silent. Do not talk or joke with the person in the next stall, chant, sing, or recite anything aloud. Do not spit or blow mucus from your nose onto the area around you. Do not strain or make grunting sounds excessively. You should not write on the walls. Do not dig at or draw on the ground with your toilet spatula; it should be used for cleaning yourself after you have evacuated your bowels. Also, if you use paper, you should not use old paper or paper with characters written on it.
    You should keep in mind the difference between a clean spatula and a soiled one. The spatula is eight inches long, triangular in shape. In thickness, it is the width of one’s thumb. Some are lacquered, others are not. Put your soiled spatula
    in the used spatula box. Clean ones will already be in the spatula stand. The spatula stand is kept near the sign in front of the toilet basin.
    After using a spatula or paper, the way you clean yourself is as follows: hold the bucket in your right hand and moisten your left hand well. Then, cupping some water in your left hand, you first clean off your genitals three times. Then, you wash your buttocks. This is the way you should clean yourself.
    Do not tip the bucket roughly, spilling the water into your hand and quickly using it all up.
    After you have finished cleaning yourself, put the bucket down in its proper place; then, take the used spatula and wipe it clean and dry with paper. You should wipe your genitals and buttocks dry. Next, adjust your under-skirt and robe with your right hand, and, also with your right hand, pick up the bucket. Then go out the door, take off the rush slippers, and put on your own. Next, you return to the wash stand and put the bucket in its original place.
    Next, you should wash your hands. With your right hand you take a spoonful of ashes, place it atop some pebbles, drip some water on them, and wash your contacting hand with your right hand,9 using the pebbles to scour it, just as though you were cleaning rust off a sword. You should wash with ashes in this manner three times. Then, you should take some sand, add some water, and wash three times. Next, take some cleansing powder made from ground orange seeds in your right hand, moisten it with water from the small bucket, and wash by rubbing your hands together. The washing should be done thoroughly, even up your forearms. You should wholeheartedly devote your attention to washing in a conscientious manner. Ashes thrice, sand thrice, and cleansing powder once—all together seven times, an appropriate number. Next, you wash in a large bucket. This time, you simply wash in cold or warm water, without using any cleanser, sand, or ashes. After washing once, transfer that water into the small bucket, put in fresh water, and rinse both hands. In the Avatamsaka Scripture, a verse says:
    When washing your hands,
    By all means pray that all sentient beings
    May acquire the finest hands
    With which to receive the Buddha’s Teachings.
    When you use a water ladle, you should, of course, hold it with your right hand. When using it, do so quietly, without making a great noise with bucket or ladle.
    Do not splash water about, scatter the cleansing powder, or get the area around the water stand wet. That is to say, do not be hasty or careless: do not be disorderly with things or treat them roughly.
    Next, you dry your hands with the towel for general use or dry them with your own towel. Once you have finished drying your hands, go to where your robe is hanging over the pole, undo the sash cord, and hang the cord over the pole. Next, hang your towel over your left shoulder and rub some incense on yourself. There is rubbing incense for general use. It is made of fragrant wood in the shape of small vials. The size of each is about the thickness of a thumb and four times that amount in length. You take a piece of string about a foot long and thread it through the holes that are bored in each end of the incense stick. This is hung over the pole. When you rub it between the palms of your hands, the fragrance of this incense will naturally impregnate your hands.
    When you hang your sash cord over the pole, do not hang it over another one so that they become entangled, and do not leave it in a disorderly fashion.

    When matters are handled in this way, everything will be a purified Buddha Land, a Buddha World well adorned. You should do everything with care, without a lapse: you should not act from haste, as though in a dither. Do not entertain the thought, “If I hurry, I can get back to what I was doing.” You should keep in mind the principle that, when you go to the Eastern Quarters, the Buddha’s Dharma is not something to be talked about, but lived.

    Do not stare at the faces of monks coming and going.

    In cleansing yourself whilst in the lavatory, it is fine to use cool water, since it is said that hot water may cause diarrhea. Using warm water to wash your hands will not prove disturbing to your health. A kettle has been provided for heating water to wash your hands with.
    Concerning the duties of the monk in charge of the lavatory, it says in the Procedures for Cleanliness in a Zen Temple, “Later in the evening, see that water is heated and oil is put out for the night lamp. Always make sure that there is someone to take over the boiling of the water, and do not let the community do it with a discriminatory attitude.” From this it is clear that both hot and cold water are used.
    Shōbōgenzō: On Washing Yourself Clean 62
    If the interior of the lavatory becomes dirty, you should screen off the entry door and hang the sign that says ‘Dirty’ on it. If a bucket is accidentally knocked over, you should screen off the entry door and hang up the ‘Spilled Bucket’ sign. Do not enter the building when such signs have been put up.
    Even though you may have already entered a stall, if there is someone else who snaps his fingers to let you know of his presence, you should leave shortly.
    http://www.thezensite.com/ZenTeachin...o/007senjo.pdf
    and it goes on like that a bit more ... similar rules exist for tooth brushing, face washing and such ...

    Here is an image of a traditional Tosu (Eastern Hall) in a Zen Monastery in Japan. As you can see, it has an Altar too.



    The image there is the Buddha Ususama-myoo (seen here at the entrance to another Tosu), also called Katokongoo, symbolizes the virtue of purification, and is said to transform impurities.



    In this video, although in Japanese, a monk demonstrates some of the Tooth Brushing, Face Washing (not wasting a drop, washing body-mind as one) at 16:00 and above described Toilet procedures at 18:00. Sleeping procedure is at 33:00.



    Gassho, J

    PS - Small footnote. The old Priest who appears at the 20:30 mark is Niwa Zenji, Abbot of Eiheiji and Nishijima Roshi's Teacher, my Dharma-Grandfather. He is speaking on "Body-Mind Are One".
    Last edited by Jundo; 11-16-2014 at 02:32 AM.
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    Nindo
    Guest
    Just a question - it was previously mentioned that one day of the retreat would be pre-recorded in Sweden and therefore not live for anybody - is this still the case?
    Gassho,
    Nindo

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    Hi Nindo,

    Actually, that will be the second half of the first day. The Retreat Center where Fugen is recording his portion does not have a reliable internet connection, so that must be pre-recorded.

    All portions with me (Jundo) and most of the portions with our other Priests will be live, although some recorded.

    Truly, all are live beyond time and place.

    Gassho, J

    Sat Today!
    Last edited by Jundo; 11-16-2014 at 02:44 PM.
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    I'm posting a very simple .doc that allows to add one's own time, or with which units to catch up later.

    When I asked if this might be useful, people thought it to be more, like maybe a spreadsheet doing all the calculations for you. I apologize.
    I will give it a try, though.

    I just made this yesterday to copy-and-paste around a bit the units that are over night for me.

    Nindo, thanks for asking, I bothered Dosho with the same question.
    This is not to invalidate the prerecorded units, but it might facilitate planning to know.

    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday

    (had to split this, exceeds allowed file size)
    Rohatsu2014Schedule1-3.doc
    Rohatsu2014Schedule4-6.doc

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    Danny,

    Awesome! Thank you for this, it will be very helpful!

    Gassho
    Lisa
    sat today

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    Although it will be broken in two by a gig I could not skip, I will do my best to participate live as much as possible!


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    Doing this retreat come hell or high water.


    Gassho
    Daizan
    Sat Today

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    Please feel free to adapt any of this you wish
    I'll keep it to not chatting while sh..., no grafitti, and typical European style toilet.

    Will leave the spatula and pebbles for maybe another time.
    (Who had to clean the spatulas and the cubicles with the spilled buckets??)

    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday

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    Hi all,
    I'll be there with everyone for the duration. Put in some vacation time at work 😋.

    Gassho,
    Scott
    #SatToday
    Forever is so very temporary...

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    What a great preparatory explanation and videos!
    Question: In the Eiheiji video, what is happening at the beginning?

    thanks, Danny, for the Word docs!

    Gassho,
    Jon
    #SatToday

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    I will be joining this year! though it will be a combination of live and recorded due to time difference. Glad I could clear up my schedule.
    Gassho
    C

    SatToday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizu View Post
    What a great preparatory explanation and videos!
    Question: In the Eiheiji video, what is happening at the beginning?

    thanks, Danny, for the Word docs!
    Yes, thank you very much Danny for the helpful document.

    That is a ceremony called "Shuso Hossenshiki" in Soto Zen, the "Dharma Combat" ceremony. However, it is more a choreographed and pre-scripted dance these days than some spontaneous "Dharma Combat". Shuso Hossenshiki is a ceremony found traditionally in most Soto Zen lineages, a ceremonial rite-of-passage marking a student’s promotion to the rank of Senior seat (Shuso), meaning something like "Senior Student" or "Head Seat". It takes place at the conclusion of the intensive training period of Ango during which the student serves as a model to the sangha or community. ... At the Shuso hossen ceremony, the shuso gives his or her first dharma talk and takes questions from the community in a very ritualized form of Dharma Combat. However, these days, the Koan "Mondo" (questions and responses) and the "Dharma Combat" are all according to a written script in classical language that few understand, so rather a bit of theater. Few modern people even really understand the old Japanese language they are speaking ... like the difference between modern English and English during the middle ages or Latin. The dialogue is unintelligble to most of the people listening ... and often those participating too! The participants will have practiced for days and weeks to memorize the lines, as in a play, so it is kind of a lovely theatrical or dance performance, not really a "combat".

    On the other hand, like theatre or dance ... it is "real", and people find the meaning within it that one finds in their heart! By playing Hamlet on stage, we really "become" Hamlet and all that his words contain. Here is another video with a short taste of this ceremony ...



    Gassho, J

    SatToday!
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    interesting...thanks, Jundo, for the explanation!

    Gassho,
    Jon
    #SatToday

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    Thank you Jundo for that insightful bit of Dogen's writing. I found this next bit particularly funny...

    So that your towel does not get separated from your robe or get taken by someone who has not hung up a towel, tie it down by wrapping it around your robe two or three times
    gassho

    Vincent

    Sat Today
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    Sorry for this... practical... question, but has anybody else only nesting plastic containers, only paper napkins, and really large European pillow cases?!

    My question is: I won't put the camera on (I want to do Oryoki slow slow motion and rewind), so only I will see how strange it looks, but CAN I do it with that and the right intention, or would it disgrace the whole ceremony?
    We sit with what is, do we eat with it, too?

    As the Washington retreat did Oryoki at a table, I suppose I can do without a low table?
    Using a chair as a table while sitting on the floor would make the bowls touch my nose.

    Thank you.
    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday

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    Nindo
    Guest
    Is anyone planning on starting Saturday 6am Central Time from the top of the schedule? I wouln't mind starting 5am my time (Mountain).

    Gassho,
    Nindo

    PS: Danny, I use the case of my saxophone as a low table, so any box or even a pile of books would do.
    Do you have a large cloth napkin or large dish towel? That may work better than a pillow case.

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    Hi Danny,

    Have a sincere and respectful heart, filled with gratitude for the meal one receives, and the Oryoki will be fine. The container and size is boundless.

    Relax. Do not worry how one looks.

    Gassho, J
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    a pile of books would do


    The container and size is boundless.



    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday

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    I am planning on participating fully in the retreat.
    Gassho,
    Matt
    #sattoday

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    I'm in. I've been looking forward to this.
    _/\_ Shinzan
    sattoday

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    Yes I will be here.

    Gassho
    John
    sat today

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    I just about have a "practice space" ready for this weekend. Looking forward to practising with you all again this year.

    Gassho,
    Sekishi #SatToday
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    Unfortunately I won't be able to fully participate live.

    Timezone, wife's work, family and volunteering appointments, all conspiring against my chances to retreat
    (kidding about the conspiracy, but to be honest, I am not glad with this situation)

    I'll do what I can to sit live, or watch the ceremonies, perhaps during the night, as I am 12 hours behind Japan.
    I'll also try to do some recorded parts, but can not be sure how much time will I have left.

    Even though it's a long weekend in Argentina, if all my family is at home I won't be able to sit with ease.

    So I'll have to wait for retreating.

    May you all have a nice retreat and enjoy your practice.



    Gassho,
    Walter

    #SatToday
    Gassho,Walter

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    Hope to take part recorded,

    wishing every one a peaceful retreat,

    Gassho

    Willow

    Sat Today

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    Hi Walter,

    The Retreat is available in "real time" recording, and can be sat by folks at any time they can arrange. It need not be sat live.

    Maybe there will be a time you can if you feel it is right.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday
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    Besides the chant book and Rohatsu retreat pointers, are there any materials for the Dharma talks that should be read in advance?

    Gassho,
    Jon
    #SatToday

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizu View Post
    Besides the chant book and Rohatsu retreat pointers, are there any materials for the Dharma talks that should be read in advance?

    Gassho,
    Jon
    #SatToday
    Hi Jon,

    Yes. The talks this time will all be based on portions of Ejo Zenji's KOMYOZO ZANMAI (Samadhi of the Treasury of Light). The portions we shall dance are here ...

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...l=1#post143221

    Gassho, Jundo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nindo View Post
    Is anyone planning on starting Saturday 6am Central Time from the top of the schedule? I wouln't mind starting 5am my time (Mountain).

    Gassho,
    Nindo

    PS: Danny, I use the case of my saxophone as a low table, so any box or even a pile of books would do.
    Do you have a large cloth napkin or large dish towel? That may work better than a pillow case.
    Hi Nindo, I would be happy to do Day 1/Unit 1 and Day 2/Unit 1 with you. Due to family commitments my participation past the morning will be kind of random. Let me know if that works for you. 6am central works for me.


    _|sat2day|_

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    thank you, Jundo!

    Gassho,
    Jon
    #SatToday

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    Thank you Jundo,

    Wow. So powerful, so beautiful...

    Forests, flowers, grasses, leaves; humans and animals; large or small, long or short, square or round: all display themselves simultaneously, free of discriminating thoughts or intention. This is luminosity unobstructed in impermanence.

    ...

    Being disciples of Buddha now yourselves, you should do zazen peacefully on his seat.


    Gassho
    Lisa
    sat today

  40. #40
    pdf's of Jundo's post ("Rohatsu 2014 Dharma Talks ed.pdf") in the closed Rohatsu thread re: Ejo Zenji's KOMYOZO ZANMAI (Samadhi of the Treasury of Light) and the link provided to the full translation

    Rohatsu 2014 Dharma Talks ed.pdf
    White Wind Zen Community - Komyozo Zanmai_ The Practice of the Treasury of Luminosity - 2013-09-.pdf

    Gassho,
    Jon
    #SatToday
    Last edited by jizu; 12-04-2014 at 03:03 AM. Reason: "Rohatsu 2014 Dharma Talks.pdf" replaced w/ "Rohatsu 2014 Dharma Talks ed.pdf" to reflect Jundo's subsequent edit

  41. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    Hi Walter,

    The Retreat is available in "real time" recording, and can be sat by folks at any time they can arrange. It need not be sat live.

    Maybe there will be a time you can if you feel it is right.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday

    Thanks Jundo.

    My concern is that not being alone it will be difficult to spend two days of retreat.
    Perhaps I can make arrangements to have one day alone.
    It depends in a great deal on the weather, we live in a small apartment and if my family stays because of the rain, it's difficult for me to concentrate in the retreat.

    I will most probably be able to do it in parts, but I don't know if that serves the purpose.
    I will do it to the best of my possibilities, I really want to take part anyhow.

    It is hard to have two days off having a family.
    But this must be a big opportunity to practice patience and tolerance with things as they are. And to stop seeing my responsibilities as hindrances.

    Gassho,
    Walter
    Gassho,Walter

  42. #42
    Hi Walter,

    It is best done two days together, but everyone has their own situation and abilities. So, two days apart ... one day ... bits and pieces ... each as one is able and needs.

    ... Just sit as one can.

    Gassho, Jundo
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  43. #43
    I surely will.


    Gassho,
    Walter

    #SatToday
    Gassho,Walter

  44. #44
    Kantai
    Guest
    Hello!
    It looks like a will be sitting the rohatsu sesshin the weekend after the live retreat. But maybe I can pop in and sit live on some part. Is it possible and ok to just join in two-way one sitting?

    Gassho
    Kantai
    Sat today

  45. #45
    Hi Kantai,

    Yes, you can do that, but try to sit live as much as you can. It's a great experience!

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
    #SatToday
    Hondō Kyōnin
    奔道 協忍

  46. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Kantai View Post
    Hello!
    It looks like a will be sitting the rohatsu sesshin the weekend after the live retreat. But maybe I can pop in and sit live on some part. Is it possible and ok to just join in two-way one sitting?

    Gassho
    Kantai
    Sat today
    And everyone ... do note that our Retreat will be guided in various portions by Fugen, Shokai, Yugen, Kyonin, Shingen and Shugen from Sweden, Canada, USA and Mexico (besides me in Japan). Because of time zone and other circumstances, some portions of the retreat had to be "pre-recorded". These include sections Day 1 Units 4 thru 8 and Day 2 Units 1 and (maybe) 4 thru 5. The rest should be live netcast.

    Of course, when sitting, we drop aside all divisive thoughts of "then" and "now" and "here" and "then" .... all such categories of the mind. Thus, there is actually a great Teaching in our "non-distances" in time and place!

    Gassho, Jundo


    SatToday
    Last edited by Jundo; 12-04-2014 at 05:12 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  47. #47
    RETREAT PREPARATION LESSON III -



    Our topic today is Work Practice, Samu … which will be featured various periods during our Rohatsu Retreat.


    While Zazen is at the heart of our Way, other aspects of traditional Zen Practice are also "Zazen Off The Cushion" ... the vital and energetic non-doing of ‘Samu‘ traditional work practice is so.

    Samu is well described in this excerpt …

    Samu is manual work done with the same concentration as zazen. All masters of transmission, especially Master Hyakujo (720-814), have insisted on this. Even in his old age, Master Hyakujo worked every day in the field with his students. One day, they hid his tools, thinking that their master should spare himself. Hyakujo declared: "A day without working, a day without eating." And he stopped eating until his disciples gave him back his tools.
    In zen, work has great value, because it allows us to practise the Way in action. In the dojo and during retreats (sesshins), zazen is followed by samu, which is when we do the chores to ensure the smooth functioning of communal life. Samu also means putting our efforts at the service of the community, without expecting anything in return. from Zen, by Bovay, Kaltenbach and De Smedt, Albin Michel Publishing, 1993
    Yes, Samu is just Zazen in action. It may not look like seated meditation, but it is to be done from the same state of mental balance. Couple this with an attitude of goalless, non-striving, ‘just doing’, also a hallmark of Zazen. As well, work is to be performed mindfully, as the only action in and of the whole universe : One engaged in Samu should devote to it all care and attention, never wishing for or thinking of anything else in that moment of action.

    The result is a job performed diligently and patiently and with certain goals, but with no thought of anything to achieve (of course, not a contradiction in Zen). It may be a continuing job that just needs to be done without end, but we do it with all care moment by moment by moment for the time we have.

    I usually describe Samu in a nutshell as working diligently and carefully at one's task trying to get 'er done all while, simultaneously, dropping all thought of any goal to attain or anywhere to get! (Yes, seems contradictory, like seeing things two ways at once, as one)

    For example, we clean the dishes trying to get them clean (because nobody wants filthy dishes!) ... all the while dropping all thought of "clean" vs. "dirty" and anything to achieve, thereby achieving a certain Purity that sweeps in and through both clean and dirty. Thus, we achieve a Clean that cleans up as both clean and dirty!

    Those parents and workers with heavy family or employment duties even during Retreat can make that part of that their ‘Samu’, approaching it with the mindset described above. Treat every changed diaper, cooked meal and bedtime story read during the Retreat as 'Samu'. Treat every staple stapled, copy made on the copy machine, customer greeted as 'Samu' if needing to work during part of the 'Retreat'.

    Now, if you can, and the weather permits, it is lovely to do some outdoor work for Samu. Or one can clean (beyond "clean vs. dirty") around the house. However, if someone has physical or other limitations, even small tasks are fine.

    In years past, I have gathered fall leaves and cleaned the bathtub (an activity, frankly, I usually do not enjoy!) ...



    ... but I also have scrubbed dirty coins with an old toothbrush, repeatedly washing the same coins for the entire period (a seemingly pointless activity ... and that is also the point!).

    Fugen will be leading a section in which he will be sewing flags. I am not sure what that is about, but he explains here (who said Samu can't sometimes be fun too?)



    All Good Samu, All Good Practice!

    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 12-04-2014 at 05:06 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

  48. #48
    Looking forward to this.
    Gassho,
    Theophan
    Sat Today

  49. #49
    Hello all

    Thank you for these instructional videos and writings. I raise a practical question for the preparation of food. If we are to have the food and tea, etc for the Oryoki meal; when do we prepare it? When will or won't we be able to take the time to heat the soup rice or tea for example? Just trying to make sure I am prepared for the retreat properly.

    Gassho
    C
    Sat Today!

  50. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    Hello all

    Thank you for these instructional videos and writings. I raise a practical question for the preparation of food. If we are to have the food and tea, etc for the Oryoki meal; when do we prepare it? When will or won't we be able to take the time to heat the soup rice or tea for example? Just trying to make sure I am prepared for the retreat properly.

    Gassho
    C
    Sat Today!
    There is a short break period of 20 or 30 minutes between each Oryoki. I would have soup, cereal, tea pre-prepared and just warm it if you wish during that period. It will get cold again during all our long chanting ... before starting to eat ... but that is true for Oryoki in the monastery too.

    Gassho, J
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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