Re: The problem of memory
Good day, Clare! (raising my cuppa in your direction)
Well, just a couple thoughts of my own. I am old as dirt now, so memory is getting seriously twisted for me. :D Names of people and things are often incredibly hard to retrieve. What is hardest, perhaps, is the recognition that, even 5 years ago, there would be no problem. But this is really just a function of simple aging. So, rather than get frustrated, I just laugh at what my children affectionately term my "brain farts."
As for the past past...I fall back on a very good teaching: if it is the important thing to the present moment, it will be there. It's a very interesting phenomenon for me, to watch the importance of the past. I work with seniors and one of the actual therapies used for those with advanced dementia or Alzheimers is called Remeniscence (think that's spelled correctly) Therapy whereby we take them back and try to get them to recall their lives as a way to stimulate the brain. It also serves to bring back to them a sense of purpose, a sense that their lives had some meaning which can give them, for whatever period of time, an enhanced quality of life.
Sort of a dichotomy: we are the aggregate of our past actions and consequences, yet we cannot stay there in order to live in the present. So, how much importance does that past really have for us. It has brought us to this time, to zazen, to the Buddhist teachings, yet it really has no meaning in and of itself.
I think :D
Good topic!! I'll ponder it and see what others come up with...
Be well!
In Gassho~
LYnn
Re: The problem of memory
Check out the earlier thread on Dogen's Time-Being and the direction of time...
ps Skye, the search works really well
Re: The problem of memory
Nice post, Clare . . . there is a significant body of research suggests that our memories are not very dependable. Our memories are, in Buddhist terms, dependent phenomena. We can create vivid recollections of events that never actually happened to us, we can alter memories to fit our ego's agenda, we can suppress memories of disturbing events, etc. In short, they are very shaky . . . Knowing this helps me not derive so much of my present view of myself from these unreliable mental constructs. It is easy for me to slip into thinking of memories as if they were a video-recording that is a fixed and (relatively) objective account of the events. But, I now see that science and Buddhism both tell me that the lens of my experience tampers with the video before it even gets to the memory portion of the brain where it is vulnerable to further alteration, etc, etc.
Cognitive psych is an interesting field of which I know almost nothing (just what I have picked up at the lunchtable at work).
Later,
Bill
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Lynn wrote:
Names of people and things are often incredibly hard to retrieve.
:) I am not even 40 yet and I have a lot of trouble with peoples names. I wonder what will happen in another 10 or 15 years. :)
Bill
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I listened to a really interesting show about memory a few months back...
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2007/06/08
Apparently the more times you remember something, the less accurate it becomes!
I too am finding when I'm sitting, that time becomes very non-linear sometimes, flowing backward and forward with lots of random memories mixing together, the now and then distinction getting very blurry. It's interesting, I just let it happen, and then it slips away. Neither now nor then, but also just now. I'm trying to just let it be and not over analyze but I find it very interesting too.
Skye
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I don't know exactly what memories is or how it works, but it does.
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Well I can and do say “seize the day”, but grasping one reality too strongly can be a way of running from another reality.
I think it's better to just let memory be memory, but practice is about the moment, so I guess let memory be memory in the midst of everything else that's going on. Not really holding on to it, but just letting it be what it is.
Gassho Will
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Hi,
Sorry I've been so late in replying to you all, sometimes find it hard to find time to sit down at the moment with baby Beren.
Really appreciate all your replies. Memory is definitely not very dependable. Will check out that link Louis. It was just curious for me to catch my mind, yet again, at it constructing "reality". However, I suppose we need our minds to do that, otherwise we would never be able to function, but it's good to be aware of it's fallibility. I think having Beren must have brought up the transcience of life so strongly for me as he is growing so quickly. So issue noted and now move on......
On another note, I've done reminiscience before in my day job as an occupational therapist and it can be very profound to see the extent of someone's long-term memories and the pleasure it gives them.
gassho
Clare