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Jundo
11-10-2011, 04:26 AM
Hi,

Awhile back, I reminded our Treeleaf Ango-ers that there are no mistakes in Ango, no way that life can intervene, that obstacles are just "opportunities for Practice" ...

... that ALL OF LIFE IS PRACTICE!

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4230 (http://http://www.treeleaf.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4230)

However, I certainly did not mean that one could just do the parts of Practice that one likes or is moved by, skipping the rest. I did not mean that, just because there are "no mistakes", such was an excuse to be careless or slack, being forgetful, just practicing whenever and however in hell we want! Although "life can NEVER intervene, and ALL of life is Practice" (yes, even how we play video games and how we watch TV), that does not mean we can just let life intervene, and consider that watching TV or playing a video game is the same as Practice and Zazen! To do so is to miss the central part of this practice ... dropping resistance to our aversions and attractions, dropping attachments and renouncing those things we hunger for ... dropping anger and other excess or otherwise harmful emotions ... finding balance in life neither too loose nor too tight, moving forward with diligence and sincerity and energy ... even as there is No Place to Go! In this Middle Way beyond "right and wrong" "easy and hard" "doing and non-doing" ...

... nonetheless, ONE CAN DO ANGO WRONG! :twisted:

One can be too loose in this Practice, just as one can be too tight! One can run toward or away from what we like or dislike and resist, forgetting that this is a Practice founded upon dropping all "likes and dislikes" and resistance! Remember this week's portion of the Xin Xin Ming ... neither hard or easy ... neither fearful, slack and irresolute nor charging forward ...

To live in the Great Way
is neither easy nor difficult,
but those with limited views
are fearful and irresolute:
the faster they hurry, the slower they go.

Ours is the 'Middle Way' ... but that does not mean any namby pamby, fence sitting, half hearted way that's middling, making do, mediocre and muddling through!

I often repeat the story of Buddha, Sona and the Lute Strings ...



[The Buddha said], "Sona, you were a musician and you used to play the lute. Tell me, Sona, did you produce good music when the lute string was well tuned, neither too tight nor too loose?"

"I was able to produce good music, Lord," replied Sona.

"What happened when the strings were too tightly wound up?"

"I could not produce any music, Lord," said Sona.

"What happened when the strings were too slack?"

"I could not produce any music at all, Lord," replied Sona

"Sona ... You have been straining too hard in your meditation. Do it in a relaxed way, but without being slack. Try it again and you will experience the good result."


Fortunately, in this way of ever new beginnings in each moment ... ONE CAN EVER BEGIN RIGHT FROM HERE!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYGyNTCPsE


Gassho, Jundo

Seiryu
11-10-2011, 05:31 AM
"That is all"

A "That's all folks" moment.

When I am caught up in my thinking of how I think things should be, Ango is a royal pain in everyone in my house's place that the sun don't shine.

Yet, putting aside concepts and thoughts, not trying to force things to fall into the way I think they have to be, one finds that practice is life itself. Sorry for the cliche but it is true. When one can fully trust their practice, essentailly meaning to fully trust themselves, one can never be too loose. Because in that trusting, is our practice. Moving thorough out life with great awareness and attentiveness, is our practice. Not trying to force a practice, but to practice with whatever comes up is practice.

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Kaishin
11-10-2011, 05:33 PM
that this is a Practice founded upon dropping all "likes and dislikes" and resistance!

An important reminder... this is exactly the wake-up call I needed...

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Kyonin
11-10-2011, 11:53 PM
An important reminder indeed.

Thank you, Jundo.

Myoku
11-11-2011, 07:05 AM
_()_
Peter

Hoyu
11-11-2011, 12:59 PM
Perhaps some missed this message from the last urgent Ango caution, but it was surly there. You made it clear then and it is reaffirming to hear it again with even more emphasis this time around! Thank you for the reminder _/_

Hogen
11-11-2011, 02:44 PM
Have we been keisaku'd? Yes, we have! :P

Nenka
11-11-2011, 03:17 PM
Awesome. You should wave the keisaku at us more often! Or a wet noodle. Or that scary exercise thing! :shock:

Gassho

Jen

Hoyu
11-11-2011, 03:52 PM
Or that scary exercise thing! :shock:

Gassho

Jen
:lol:
That spring certainly looks like it could be murder on the chest hairs if your not careful!

Gassho,
John

Shohei
11-11-2011, 05:40 PM
Noodle whacks received,

Understood!

Gassho
Shohei

Dokan
11-13-2011, 02:15 PM
Ango is as ango does... ;)

g

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PS - Posted to Podcast.

Ray
11-17-2011, 09:37 PM
Gassho

Ray

Risho
11-18-2011, 10:15 PM
Thank you... I definitely deserve it. Most of the time, when I say I don't have time, I usually mean that I'd rather do something else.

Gassho,

Risho

Geika
11-19-2011, 04:10 AM
Thank you, Jundo.

Gassho,

Amelia

KellyRok
11-21-2011, 04:56 PM
No words, just....

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Heisoku
11-21-2011, 10:45 PM
Guilty as charged. _/_ _/_ _/_

Marcelo de Valnisio
09-09-2013, 04:39 PM
One can be too loose in this Practice, just as one can be too tight! One can run toward or away from what we like or dislike and resist, forgetting that this is a Practice founded upon dropping all "likes and dislikes" and resistance! Remember this week's portion of the Xin Xin Ming ... neither hard or easy ... neither fearful, slack and irresolute nor charging forward ...

To live in the Great Way
is neither easy nor difficult,
but those with limited views
are fearful and irresolute:
the faster they hurry, the slower they go.



I'm very happy to find this video in the beginning of this ANGO 2013.

I'm very thankful for this lesson, Jundo.

Gassho. gassho1

Juki
09-09-2013, 05:19 PM
Thank you.

Gassho,
William

Genshin
09-09-2013, 05:31 PM
Yes, very useful guidance. Thanks Jundo.

Gassho
Matt

Taikyo
09-09-2013, 05:44 PM
Deep bows
Gassho
David

Myosha
09-09-2013, 06:56 PM
Thank you.


Gassho,
Edward

Heishu
09-09-2013, 11:55 PM
Message received and understood and I thank you.

Gassho,
Heishu

Shugen
09-10-2013, 02:04 PM
Goodbye "sleeping in Buddha", hello "get your lazy butt outa bed Buddha".;-)


Shugen

Nenka
09-10-2013, 05:29 PM
Well, there's a refresher I needed.

Gassho

Jen

Jakugan
09-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Thank you Jundo, time for me to non do some practice.

gassho,

simon

Shonin
09-11-2013, 01:21 AM
Yes, I like this video. It is a good reminder. I also noted where you spoke of the time it takes. I was thinking of my last Ango which was when I was also studying for Jukai. That is much more of a time draw. I found over the last few days that the Ango requirements really don't ask for much. I do the nurturing seeds practice throughout the day for instance. When the negative seed is caught, plant the better seed and water it instead.
But the chants and meditation times aren't that big a deal at all really. Focus, get them done. Samu is doing work around the house. Things I'm not normally responsible for. Extra I take on to assist my family overall. Not too much not too little. All in all. it's actually rather simple to do. I think mentally we get caught up thinking it's sooo much additional work. But in reality it isn't.
Dave _/\_

kidbuda
09-11-2013, 03:09 AM
Yea!! Thanks for the reminder Jundo.

Koshin
10-25-2013, 08:47 PM
A well deserved 40 whacks with the wet noodle, now, time to sit, working, but sitting :)

Gassho

Shingen
10-25-2013, 10:47 PM
Wonderful Jundo ... thank you for the clarity. Plus, I have to say, love the Grizzly Adams look. :)

Gassho
Shingen

Shoka
11-11-2015, 02:11 PM
Another wonderful talk came up in the podcast list this morning. Thank you for this reminder.

Gassho,
Shoka
sattoday

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Jakuden
11-11-2015, 04:12 PM
Sometimes I wonder why at times I struggle with so much resistance to just getting on with life and it's pesky requirements from me.
Sometimes I get jealous of others who seem to just move forward and do what has to be done without any apparent struggle to do so.
Sometimes I should drop the "I" and just get my butt on the cushion and sit.

Thanks for the nudge.

Gassho,
Sierra
SatToday

Byokan
11-11-2015, 05:17 PM
Thank you Jundo gassho2

Gassho
Lisa
sat today

martyrob
11-11-2015, 10:26 PM
Thanks again, Jundo

For both these teachings. And yes, Sierra I feel all those things too - the resistance, the jealousy, the relentless, greedy "I" stamping his feet and demanding his own way. Hit a rocky patch this weekend which puts me in mind of George Herbert's wonderful poem:

"The Collar" (http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173625)

Which about sums it up for me.

Martyn

Sat Today. And put the Ango collar back around my neck.

Jakuden
11-11-2015, 10:50 PM
Thanks again, Jundo

For both these teachings. And yes, Sierra I feel all those things too - the resistance, the jealousy, the relentless, greedy "I" stamping his feet and demanding his own way. Hit a rocky patch this weekend which puts me in mind of George Herbert's wonderful poem:

"The Collar" (http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173625)

Which about sums it up for me.

Martyn

Sat Today. And put the Ango collar back around my neck.
Interesting poem! I don't know if I understand it correctly, but the speaker seems to be almost poking fun at his own resistance to life, as a child having a temper tantrum. Then at the end he's like, OK I'm done now and will be a good boy. Very apt :-)

Gassho,
Sierra
SatToday

martyrob
11-11-2015, 11:27 PM
George Herbert was a priest. He's railing at God for the constraints, impositions and agony of the priesthood - the collar round his neck both literal and metaphoric. As he increasingly fulminates, raging and chafing, at the pinnacle of his torment, God speaks "Child" and he immediately submits to God's tenderness. I find it one of the most moving moments in all literature. Like the child raging at its parent or ourselves watching our little ego in a froth. Like all great poetry; it speaks to us on so many levels.

Martyn

Sat today

Theophan
11-12-2015, 12:55 AM
Jundo,
Thanks for the lesson.
Gassho
Theophan
Sat Today

Washin
11-12-2015, 06:40 AM
Thank you, Jundo, for another lesson.
Thank you Shoka for refreshing the thread.

Gassho
Sergey
sat-today

Jika
11-24-2015, 07:08 PM
gassho1