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will
02-26-2008, 03:44 AM
Just a little quiz :)

Gassho

Jun
02-26-2008, 05:13 AM
Doe, a dear, a female dear.........

will
02-26-2008, 05:38 AM
Haha :lol:

Gassho

Jun
02-26-2008, 06:10 AM
Ray, a drop of golden sun..............

Me, a name I call myself............

will
02-26-2008, 11:26 AM
You can do better than that Jun.

Gassho Will

Kent
02-26-2008, 01:18 PM
"Bring me your name" :D

will
02-26-2008, 01:31 PM
:D

will
02-27-2008, 12:24 AM
So if I hand you a piece of paper with a name written on it, or record a CD of a name, or come to your house and say my name. Then that's a name no hobby for me??

Gassho Will

Ankai
02-27-2008, 01:23 AM
So if I hand you a piece of paper with a name written on it, or record a CD of a name, or come to your house and say my name. Then that's a name no hobby for me??

Ah, that's interesting. He didn't ask for a piece of paper with your name on it. He said "bring me your name."
A piece of paper is a piece of paper. writing is writing, ink is ink. None are your name. How would you bring a name?

will
02-27-2008, 01:30 AM
:D Good answer Kvon.

So back to the original question.

Gassho

Ankai
02-27-2008, 02:34 AM
In the words of Sasaki Roshi, "More zazen!!"
LOL

Ankai
02-27-2008, 02:35 AM
In the words of Sasaki Roshi, "More zazen!!"
LOL

Ankai
02-27-2008, 02:35 AM
In the words of Sasaki Roshi, "More zazen!!"
LOL

Kelly M.
02-27-2008, 03:10 AM
What is a name? My Answer:

:)


Cheers,
-K

PS- Good question Will.

will
02-27-2008, 03:18 AM
:lol:

Stephanie
02-27-2008, 03:40 AM
Emperor's new clothes.

will
02-27-2008, 03:47 AM
:D



Gassho

Kent
02-27-2008, 10:41 AM
Is there a "Will" if there is no "Way"? :)

Jun
02-27-2008, 11:30 AM
Is there a Way if we have no will?

Jundo
02-27-2008, 11:56 AM
Hey Guys,

I am so glad everybody here has enough of a sense of humor, and the very good sense, so that this thread did not become one of those silly "Dharma Combats" that hits every "Zen" site on the web.

You know what I mean by "Dharma Combat": Where folks try to imitate the spontaneous insights of those old Koan stories ... I have absolutely no time today to go into the topic in detail, so I will just borrow this that somebody else wrote on the net:




I was recently reminded of a memory some time ago when I was studying Zen/Chan Buddhism with great earnest. At the time I used to frequent perhaps one of the most fruitful bulletin boards on the internet, 'E-sangha.' What I realized was that most Zen pracititioners lack a rigorous understanding of Madhyamikan philosophy, and tended to hide their answers with one liner quips that were intended to be taken as insightful, or knowledgeable, when in fact it seemed to be a display of their pretentiousness and lack of understanding. ... It seemed as these Zen students seemed to have been reading their Blue Cliff Records a little too much, or attending a lecture by Seung Sahn. The typical scenario goes like this:

Person with sincere Question asks: How do you define Buddhism?

Trite Zen student says: Three Pounds of Flax!

Pedestrian Zen guy chimes in : KATZ!!!

Zen Master Wannabe takes the cake with: ::holds up one finger::

And of course the person with the sincere question is left out to dry. Sometimes they feel like they're just stupid and they don't get it, or they realize that the people who responded just don't get it. ...In Zen buddhism, there are limits to human knowledge, and there is a limit to what one can explain through human language......but one must not take the cop out....one must still try to help those that don't understand by writing to the best of their ability. They may not grasp it all, but at least one has given them a stronger foundation that they can work from.

So, what is Buddhism?

::closes eyes::

;-) :lol:

Kent
02-27-2008, 12:05 PM
Jundo, sorry, no combat intended :) Gassho Kent Cooper

will
02-27-2008, 12:42 PM
:lol: This is one of the funnest post yet. I think there's actually a "Will in the way"

Thanks for that quote Jundo. The description was funny "THREE POUNDS OF FLAX" :lol: Don't know what it means, but funny.

Of course my question was also somewhat earnest "to test the zenites" :wink: see what they'd say. Thanks guys.

Gassho Will

Kelly M.
02-27-2008, 12:59 PM
Jundo, sorry, no combat intended :) Gassho Kent Cooper

Haha same here: I just like to smile :)

I see the humour in such a question; especially when asked by Will (where I know he's pullin' my leg). As such, I do have a desire to provide the corny answer that I feel he's fishing for.

Lynn
02-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Of course my question was also somewhat earnest "to test the zenites" :wink: see what they'd say.

Is this what you feel is a helpful contribution to the group, Will? I've noticed this to be a pattern with you and I'm not sure what your intention is when you do this kind of thing? Who do you suppose you are in relation to the group to "test the zenites?" Sounds a little pretentious as if you have "the answers" to your little "tests" and you're trying to make others look foolish somehow.

But, if you feel this is something you must do, well....

Jun
02-27-2008, 01:54 PM
Testing, testing; one, two, three..........

will
02-27-2008, 01:59 PM
Is this what you feel is a helpful contribution to the group, Will? I've noticed this to be a pattern with you and I'm not sure what your intention is when you do this kind of thing? Who do you suppose you are in relation to the group to "test the zenites?" Sounds a little pretentious as if you have "the answers" to your little "tests" and you're trying to make others look foolish somehow.

But, if you feel this is something you must do, well....

Now Lynn. Calm down. I understand. My question was in earnest.

How I contribute to the group? I can't say.

No harm done. It is a interesting question no? Now time has past. What was a moment ago.

There is no foolish answer. It's what it is.

Are you a zenite? Please say you are. For I will be very very sad if your not. I'm a zenite. We are all zenites. Or not.

We can learn from all kinds of questions.

Ok. Funs over. Pack it up. Move it out everyone. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Party's over.

(Just so you know, every gassho written by me is a gassho. unfortunately, we have to write it)

Gassho Will :oops:

will
02-27-2008, 02:11 PM
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will
02-27-2008, 02:33 PM
As to the question I posted weeks ago. Well, that was pretentious, and I apologized for it. However, this is not what it was, and yet it is.


Wish you well
Gassho
Will

Ankai
02-27-2008, 02:41 PM
Oh, man,guys... could we not do this? It's a fun and thought provoking conversation. Who cares about the rest?

will
02-27-2008, 03:06 PM
Lynn

I should have said I was "interested" in what everyone would say. Please forgive that.

Gassho

No harm done Kvon. :)

Dainin
02-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Hi Jundo,

Thank you for including that quote. I have had similar experiences with SOME (not everyone) folks associated with the Kwan Um School of Zen, founded by Seung Sahn. Some even take on his speech patterns and write how he wrote. I never really found that helpful.

I personally don't find these types of questions helpful, either. I realize why koans are used, but I find that my everyday life presents plenty of koans every second. So much to work with there!

Jundo
02-27-2008, 03:26 PM
Who do you suppose you are in relation to the group to "test the zenites?"

Now, now folks ... no need to get "testy"! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Anyway, WHO is getting tested and testy??

Answer: Three Pounds of Flax

Bonus question: Which weighs more? Three pounds of flax, or three pounds of duck feathers?

paige
02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
Bonus question: Which weighs more? Three pounds of flax, or three pounds of duck feathers?

Are they wild duck feathers?

KWACKZ!

Shane
02-27-2008, 07:51 PM
is that a coconut laden duck?

Skye
02-27-2008, 07:54 PM
Yes.

(what is a name.)

paige
02-27-2008, 08:04 PM
is that a coconut laden duck?

African or European?

Rev R
02-27-2008, 08:25 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/psychocosmicart/Raiden.jpg
DHARMA COMBAAAT!


Rev R wins.


Flawless Victory!

louis
02-27-2008, 08:27 PM
master: Why did the Bodhidharma come from the west?
student: KATZ!
master slaps student.

student: Maybe I should have said Cohen?

Kelly M.
02-28-2008, 01:29 AM
I must confess that I enjoy a silly topic like this from time to time. It has been a while since I last considered the substance of a name and I thank Will for reminding me. Such a simple question holds such profound insight. :)

Cheers,
-K

Kelly M.
02-28-2008, 01:34 AM
PS- Don't be so quick to claim victory Rev... COME HERE! :twisted:

http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/PS2-04-Mortal-kombat.jpg

will
02-28-2008, 11:54 AM
Has anyone seen my sandals?~ Joshu :lol:

Great Quote Rev.

Gassho Will