Zen Sports: Mobility for Better Sitting

[Onrin]

JUNDO: Just a little note that, if anyone has any spine, back or other medical issue of concern at all, don't attempt anything without consulting your doctor just to make sure it is recommended, of course! gassho1

As per Jundo's request I am linking a couple of short instructional videos for improving lower body mobility/flexibility.
Hip mobility can be an impediment to sitting comfortably, so I hope this is of some help. Spinal mobility can be a chicken and egg situation with lower body flexibility or lack of it, so that's also worth paying attention to.
These movements should feel like a good stretch, so don't try to go hard or push through any pain. You should be able to breathe comfortably while doing them, and maybe do 1 minute per movement. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Hip rotation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJFktHw3I4&t=2s
Hip extension: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_i8xzLL0XM
Thoracic spine rotation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54RL1loaCdo&t=3s


Gassho
Chris

[Tairin]

Thank you for sharing these Chris. I’ll give them a try

gassho2
Tairin
Sat today and lah

[Koushi]

Thank you Chris! gassho1

Gassho,
Koushi
STLaH

[Jundo]

Thank you, Chris. These look like they can be very helpful to folks with some flexibility issues, as was brought up at our tea meeting yesterday. I will try them too.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

[Risho]

Thank you!

gassho

risho
-stlah

[Jundo]

Chris, I will eventually move this into our new "sports" section just so we don't lose it, and can access it easily.

Thanks again.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

[Onrin]

A sports section? This will be interesting ;)
Glad to help in any way I can.
Gassho,
Chris

[Jundo]

Chris, I will eventually move this into our new "sports" section just so we don't lose it, and can access it easily.

Thanks again.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

Done!

[Heiso]

These look great, thank you!

Gassho,

Heiso

StLah

[Shoki]

I've been doing the thoracic rotations for a few weeks now as part of my physical therapy routine. Designed to help with some spinal issues arthritis, etc.

Gassho
stlah
Shoki

[Chet]

Dude! Where was this in the 90s and early 2000s when I was sitting half-lotus? Thank you.

(ST)

[rj]

Chris,

Thank you for this!

gassho2
st/rj

[Rousei]

Ankle flexibility is also important! This is where my struggle is. These are really interesting videos, thank you for posting them.

Gassho
Mark
ST

[Shade]

Thank you so much for these videos, Chris. I started stretching today and will make it a daily practice.

Gassho,

Shade

ST

[Onrin]

Ankle flexibility is also important! This is where my struggle is. These are really interesting videos, thank you for posting them.

Gassho
Mark
ST

Mark, good point thank you. Ankle flexibility can also be worked on in the hip flexor stretch I posted above, just keep the front heel on the ground as you shift hips forward so your knee travels over your toes (2nd toe to be precise). The knee and foot should be pointing in the same direction. This particular ankle movement (dorsiflexion) is where a lot of people lack mobility. Ankle circles are also nice to do - just sit or stand and make slow circles with your ankle in both directions.
Gassho, Chris

[Onrin]

I've been doing the thoracic rotations for a few weeks now as part of my physical therapy routine. Designed to help with some spinal issues arthritis, etc.

Gassho
stlah
Shoki


Good to hear. Thoracic (the mid-back) stiffness is a very common issue that can lead to low back and neck issues, and anyone that sits a lot (all of us) can use some work there.
Gassho,
Chris

[Meian]

As per Jundo's request I am linking a couple of short instructional videos for improving lower body mobility/flexibility.
Hip mobility can be an impediment to sitting comfortably, so I hope this is of some help. Spinal mobility can be a chicken and egg situation with lower body flexibility or lack of it, so that's also worth paying attention to.
These movements should feel like a good stretch, so don't try to go hard or push through any pain. You should be able to breathe comfortably while doing them, and maybe do 1 minute per movement. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Hip rotation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJFktHw3I4&t=2s
Hip extension: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_i8xzLL0XM
Thoracic spine rotation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54RL1loaCdo&t=3s


Gassho
ChrisMuch gratitude for this.

I won't try to list my spine issues. As long as no more surgery, I'm good! =)

Gassho, meian st lh

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[Jundo]

Much gratitude for this.

I won't try to list my spine issues. As long as no more surgery, I'm good! =)

Gassho, meian st lh

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I would insist that, if you have any spine or back issues, do none of this until checking with your doctor!!!!

Gassho, J

[Meian]

I would insist that, if you have any spine or back issues, do none of this until checking with your doctor!!!!

Gassho, JWell-noted, I will.
Thank you, Jundo. [emoji120]

Gassho2

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[bakera3312]

gassho2

Thank you!

Tony,

[Onrin]

Yes thank you Jundo for adding that caution. If you have chronic issues or are in pain please consult with a trusted clinician first.
It is possible to make things worse, as with any type of exercise or action.

Some years ago a person came to me with a history of multiple back surgeries and chronic pain, who's goal was to be able to sit zazen again. He had been a member of the Mt. Shasta monastery while Leonard Cohen was living there in fact. We had to take things very cautiously, and with the assistance and advice of his doctors. And there were setbacks here and there, but progress did come with consistency.

Gassho,
Chris

[Jundo]

Some years ago a person came to me with a history of multiple back surgeries and chronic pain, who's goal was to be able to sit zazen again. He had been a member of the Mt. Shasta monastery while Leonard Cohen was living there in fact. We had to take things very cautiously, and with the assistance and advice of his doctors. And there were setbacks here and there, but progress did come with consistency.

Gassho,
Chris

I would have told her to just "sit" as she is, as her capabilities allowed. Like Leonard Cohen's grumbly voice (no close relation, by the way), one just sits or sings with what one has. On the other hand, no reason to give up on the body either, and quit rehab too early, if one want to recover. Middle way. Not clinging to recovery, neither running away.

Gassho, J

STLah

[Onrin]

I would have told her to just "sit" as she is, as her capabilities allowed. Like Leonard Cohen's grumbly voice (no close relation, by the way), one just sits or sings with what one has. On the other hand, no reason to give up on the body either, and quit rehab too early, if one want to recover. Middle way. Not clinging to recovery, neither running away.

Gassho, J

STLah

I agree, and this person did for the most part, doing zazen while lying and in a chair. However the largest setback came when he went on a retreat in Colorado and came back in extreme pain due to being forced to sit for long periods with an option to change position, and had a new teacher that insisted on 2 hours of uninterrupted sitting that really caused back problems. I was pretty furious at whoever this teacher was at causing harm, but it was also his choice to do it. Couldn't agree more that middle way is appropriate here.
Gassho,
Chris