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Jundo
08-16-2021, 03:28 AM
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"Hi-shiryo," or "non-thinking," derives from the famous teaching of Master Dogen, found in Fukanzazengi and elsewhere:


"Think (shiryo) of not-thinking (fu-shiryo). How do you think of not-thinking? Non-thinking (hi-shiryo)."

The Kanji FU 不 ... no ... is not the same as HI 非 ... non. Thus, this "hi-shiryo" is sometimes translated as different from "not thinking," but rather is "beyond thinking" or (as some like me say) "thinking-not-thinking." "Thinking" is what we do ordinarily, with the mental wheels turning, dividing and categorizing, judging, thoughts of "right or wrong ... the revolutions of mind" as Master Dogen described. "Not thinking" is the opposite, the dropping away of all that dividing (including the self/other divide), categorizing and judging for wholeness and flowing unity in radical equanimity. When we put both together (like encountering the world both ways at once, not two) we get "thinking not thinking," this "non-thinking." Such is a world encountered as if one way from one eye in ordinary thinking, as free of thinking with a boundless eye, with both eyes open together the Clarity of a Buddha's Eye.

That leads to a question:

When one realizes "Hi-shiryo" in Zazen, "thinking not thinking," does such remain with one all the time?

No, I don't think so. Or, better said, it depends on the moment, and comes in degrees. Sometimes (most times) we human beings can just function normally in ordinary human life with ordinary human thoughts (hopefully, however, not too greedy, angry, jealous or otherwise divided etc.). At other times, bodymind profoundly drops away in the wholeness and pervasiveness of "not thinking." And countless times, in my experience, there is/are both at once (thinking not thinking) although one pole may be more dominant than the other in the moment. We might say that one eye is sometimes more useful than the other, sometimes both at once, not two (much like the various degrees of "relative and absolute" mixing and blending depicted in 'Tozan's 5 Ranks' in fact).

On the other hand, once found and embodied in Zazen, Hi-shiryo -is- always with one all the time, a realization that cannot be unrealized, even if temporarily the moon is hidden by the clouds sometimes. I feel that, in my life, even during those ordinary, day to day times of "ordinary thinking," the "not thinking" is still subtly present in my heart and eyes. This is like a single grounding hum always present in life's music and noise, even subtly. We may not always notice, but it spices everything, much like the air we breathe always has a subtle taste, its richness always supporting us, although often not noticed.

In fact, "not thinking" is always present and need not be "realized," for it is precisely "thinking," as "form is precisely emptiness," although most sentient beings fail to realize this fact when so trapped in our "thinking" in greed, anger and ignorance. Thus, realizing what is always present beyond need for realization and attainment is a glorious realization attained! There are no "degrees" or "moments" in time to realize or not realize so, which is what we can realize any moment at any time. The clear air is always present in the wind, even in life's storming hurricanes! The moon shining in the boundless, cloudless sky is always present even when hidden by the clouds. Our practice is to realize that moon in boundless sky, and clouds of thought, were never two and apart.

Thus, sitting in Shikantaza, dropping "right or wrong ... the revolutions of mind," dropping away all that dividing (including the self/other divide), categorizing and judging ... thus finding wholeness and flowing unity in radical equanimity ... nothing to attain but sitting itself ... thoughts drifting by, yet the clear blue sky and light shining through the thoughts, not one not two ...

... such is Hi-shiryo, "thinking not thinking."

Gassho, J

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Sorry to run long.

Kotei
08-16-2021, 05:13 AM
Thank you, Jundo.
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Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

Yokai
08-16-2021, 05:54 AM
Thank you Jundo

Gassho, Yokai sat/lah

Washin
08-16-2021, 06:07 AM
Thank you, Jundo gassho1

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Washin
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Anchi
08-16-2021, 06:18 AM
Thank you, Jundo.gassho1



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Inshin
08-16-2021, 07:26 AM
"thoughts drifting by, yet the clear blue sky shining through the thoughts, not one not two..."

gassho2

no witnesses no sky as a background...

Gassho
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Timchenko_Oleg
08-16-2021, 07:58 AM
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aprapti
08-16-2021, 10:29 AM
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Risho
08-16-2021, 06:12 PM
thank you

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risho
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Tairin
08-16-2021, 07:04 PM
Wonderful. Thank you Jundo.

gassho2
Tairin
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bakera3312
08-16-2021, 07:14 PM
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Thank you,

Tony

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Kyōsen
08-16-2021, 08:43 PM
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Kokuu
08-16-2021, 09:15 PM
Beautiful! gassho2

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Troy
08-17-2021, 12:45 AM
Thank you [emoji1374]


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Shokai
08-17-2021, 02:02 AM
Wonderful. Thank you Jundo.

If I may be permitted to include a bad joke:

Philosopher Rene Descartes walks into a bar. The Bartender says, "Will you be having a beer?"
Descartes replies, "I think not." and disappears!


Gassho, Shokai
stlah

Tairin
08-17-2021, 11:47 AM
Wonderful. Thank you Jundo.

If I may be permitted to include a bad joke:

Philosopher Rene Descartes walks into a bar. The Bartender says, "Will you be having a beer?"
Descartes replies, "I think not." and disappears!


Gassho, Shokai
stlah

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Kendrick
08-19-2021, 02:58 PM
Thank you! gassho2

Gassho
Kendrick
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Kiri
08-20-2021, 09:56 AM
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MyoHo
08-23-2021, 08:22 AM
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Tai Shi
09-06-2021, 02:47 PM
I am beyond limits of non-thinking. Bare with me Jundo as I explain late for 8:30 a.m. sitting with Onkai, commitment made in writing in Zendo. I write two men in Prison through my church, found a way justifying late writing and late for morning sit with health problems, missed sending letter last week. Problem: I put off writing one more week, say less of justification which took me away from commitments. Sometimes I'm filled with worry. I would benefit with writing as I promised to fulfill without justification by September 21, before meeting with Dr. 29th, maintaining commitment of morning group sit at 8:30. which makes me feel better. Entered Free sitting room saying Robe Verse, Verse of Attolent. Four Vows, all from memory, sitting another 15 min; is this justification? How shall I proceeded, Jundo?
Gassho
sat/lah

Jundo
09-07-2021, 01:23 AM
I am beyond limits of non-thinking. Bare with me Jundo as I explain late for 8:30 a.m. sitting with Onkai, commitment made in writing in Zendo. I write two men in Prison through my church, found a way justifying late writing and late for morning sit with health problems, missed sending letter last week. Problem: I put off writing one more week, say less of justification which took me away from commitments. Sometimes I'm filled with worry. I would benefit with writing as I promised to fulfill without justification by September 21, before meeting with Dr. 29th, maintaining commitment of morning group sit at 8:30. which makes me feel better. Entered Free sitting room saying Robe Verse, Verse of Attolent. Four Vows, all from memory, sitting another 15 min; is this justification? How shall I proceeded, Jundo?
Gassho
sat/lah

Just keep going, just now and just now and just now ...

Gassho, J

STLah

Tai Shi
09-07-2021, 01:37 AM
I wrote the letters, and changed my mentioning my help. Easy I had letters saved on my computer! Then spent afternoon with Zazenkai for Seniors. Missed my non narcotics for pain because of an important Dharma talk.took my medication and ate my entire pizza with in 10 minutes. I had second medication [emoji381] so now I’m under iced packs for my pain. Finally relax finally. Moral: Thank you [emoji120] Jundo.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210907/8c515ca9ba6683a6b4175dd891115ea9.jpg
Moral. Don’t miss time for medication [emoji381] Plan ahead!
Gassho
sat/ lah


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