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Shoka
04-16-2021, 08:53 PM
Sorry everyone it didnít take long for our Greatest Hits to be disappointing!

In another classic Jundo talk, he takes away all the mystery, high hopes and leaves us pretty disappointed in zenís ability to fix any of the ills in our life. Or even to at least make us feel great while we are sitting for the day.

Jundo even points out that ďcounter-intuitive as it may seem, a Sangha or Teacher which meets all the student's expectations, golden dreams, ideals and desires too would be a disserviceĒ

So not only do we not get peaches and cream, but we should be prepared for rough spots.

Itís a wonder any of us stayed around for Treeleaf to get to itís 15 year anniversary with that rosie outlook!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkcqAe86FL4


The original post can be found here:
https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?10535-SIT-A-LONG-with-Jundo-The-BEST-Zen-is-SO-DISAPPOINTING%21&highlight=disappointing


Do you remember when you first heard this talk or the same message from Jundo?

Gassho,
Shoka
(she/her)
sat/lah

PS - Yes, I do find myself punny :P

Tai Shi
04-16-2021, 11:58 PM
I never compliment Jundo on his Dharma talk. There are good things and bad things about each talk. There are good talks and bad talks. Jundo is human and he can get sick like you and me. There is no magic in Zen, and there is no whim wham in Jundo. Give me a break! You are human too. And you just might be making a mistake here!
Gassho
sat/ lah
Tai Shi


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Onkai
04-17-2021, 12:40 AM
When I viewed this video for the first time, it encouraged me to keep a regular practice, even with the ups and downs I felt with it. I was glad to have found a teacher who presented the practice this way. The interactions of an online zendo are different than the interactions in person, and this teaching helped me navigate this way of relating. To acknowledge that the practice and the teachers are very ordinary is grounding. Maybe I'm not disappointed enough, but I don't mind that. :=) Sorry to go over three sentences.

Gassho,
Onkai
Sat/lah

Jundo
04-17-2021, 03:46 AM
I never compliment Jundo on his Dharma talk. There are good things and bad things about each talk. There are good talks and bad talks. Jundo is human and he can get sick like you and me. There is no magic in Zen, and there is no whim wham in Jundo. Give me a break! You are human too. And you just might be making a mistake here!
Gassho
sat/ lah
Tai Shi



Tai Shi gets it! gassho2 gassho2 gassho2

Tairin
04-17-2021, 02:44 PM
This is a lesson I remind myself of frequently.

gassho2
Tairin
Sat today and lah

Doshin
04-17-2021, 03:27 PM
Jundo,

I strive to be more like you :encouragement: Your kindness, tolerance and acceptance of iimperfection are role models.

Doshin
St

Dick
04-17-2021, 07:32 PM
Perhaps, expect nothing

want nothing

Accept everything

Gassho

Dick

Sat/lah

Jundo
04-17-2021, 08:34 PM
Jundo,

I strive to be more like you :encouragement: Your kindness, tolerance and acceptance of iimperfection are role models.

Doshin
St

Hah! My wife and kids might disagree sometimes. :p

Gassho, J

STLah

Tai Shi
04-17-2021, 08:36 PM
Thank you Jundo for everything you do for us!!!
Gassho sat
lah
Tai Shi


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Onkai
04-17-2021, 09:24 PM
Perhaps, expect nothing

want nothing

Accept everything

Gassho

Dick

Sat/lah

gassho2

Gassho,
Onkai
Sat/lah