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Hensho
01-23-2021, 08:14 PM
This space is for discussing the writing craft, in all its forms.
The possibilities are endless. Here are some ideas:
Expository Writing
Technical Writing
Approaches to Memoir
Journalism
Fiction
Genre Fiction
Composition
Styles, Tropes, Purple Prose
Sentence Patterning and Rhythm
Grammar and Usage
Dialogue
Short Story Arcs
Novel Arcs
Plot and Subplot
"It was all a dream" and other pitfalls
Narrative and Point of View Choices
Contemporary Writers
Not So Contemporary Writers
Buddhist Influences, Other Influences
Realism, Naturalism, Modernism, Post Modernism, Beyond the Post Modern, etc.
Writers We Like
Looking forward to this evolving discussion,
Gassho,
Hensho
Satlah
Hensho
01-26-2021, 09:16 PM
Let me start this by asking: What is the Zen Aesthetic and how, if at all, does it inform your writing?
Gassho,
Henso
sat
Kokuu
01-26-2021, 10:50 PM
Hi Hensho
For me, the Zen aesthetic comprises simplicity and directness, presence and awareness. There may also be elements of pointing to universal truths within the specifics of the world.
In haiku, we start off with a set of images and pick one or two that reflect the scene we are trying to make. Even after that, excess and superfluous words are removed, leaving only the bare essence. This approach can also be applied to prose writing and I find that it is something I have gone into the habit of. Natalie Goldberg calls it 'writing down the bones'.
I was initially trained as a science writer and that has a similar approach of cutting away extraneous information that is not relevant or adds nothing. However, what is removed there may be different and the objectivity required for science writing contrasts with the personal becoming universal of the Zen approach.
In Zazen, we sit with each moment, complete and full and Zen writing can reflect this, drawing on sense experience to point to that fullness, invoking the colours, scents and feelings of a time and place. Zen is also linked with the natural world and its seasons and I think it would be a rare Zen work that did not allude to this in any way at all.
Anyway, good question, Hensho! I do not consider my answer to be in any way definitive but are merely the thoughts that come to mind in response.
Gassho
Kokuu
-sattoday-
Geika
01-27-2021, 09:06 PM
I have read Writing Down the Bones a few times. I highly recommend it.
Gassho
Sat, lah
Jishin
01-27-2021, 10:54 PM
I have read Writing Down the Bones a few times. I highly recommend it.
Gassho
Sat, lah
I liked the book too.
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Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__
Onkai
01-27-2021, 11:22 PM
I have the Writing Down the Bones in paperback and Kindle format, but I haven't gone through the entire book yet. I think Natalie Goldberg coined the term "freewriting." I have done a lot of freewriting. For a long time I wrote 750 words (equivalent to three pages) a day of freewriting, as suggested by Julia Cameron in The Artist's Way, although I couldn't bring myself to do it first thing when I got up in the morning.
Gassho,
Onkai
Sat/lah
Geika
01-29-2021, 05:24 AM
Come to think of it, Writing Down the Bones was my first introduction to Zen practice, though not a book about Zen practice. I picked up the book on a whim, looking for something that might inspire me. At the time I was dropping out of college and feeling like I should still keep up with my goal of becoming a writer in some capacity. I was all caught up in a mishmash of Paganism, New Age and esoteric Yoga practices at the time. Natalie Goldburg kept dropping the word Zen, and I thought, why not look into this and add it to my mix? I found Treeleaf very shortly afterward, and somehow over the next two years dropped everything else. I had also been reading a huge volume of collected essays by J. Krishnamurti, and I think that contributed to my shift as well, although also not strictly about Zen practice.
Gassho
Sat, lah
Jishin
01-29-2021, 05:51 AM
I picked up Writing Down the Bones for help with with an autobiography. It was very helpful and I actually wrote an autobiography and self published it. "Almost President" was the title as that had been my grandiose delusion. I had it online and got 1/2 million hits before I took it down. It was about 15-20 years ago when self disclosure of mood disorders was more risque for doctors. We have come a long way and people talk about psychiatic difficulties much more freely nowdays.
Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__
Hensho
01-29-2021, 10:05 PM
For me, the writer who has most informed my Zen practice is actually a poet: Wallace Stevens. I was really into Stevens in graduate school but I had no thought of Zen in those years. I don't think Stevens did either, but I rereading him now, I find him exceedingly Zen.
"It was how the sun came shining into his room:
To be without a description of to be..."
...And so many other passages helped to form my thinking both as a writer and as a person. His work is part of me now, merged with many other artists and thinkers and experiences, inseparable from how I think and encounter the world today.
Gassho,
Hensho
lahsat
Hensho
02-19-2021, 04:04 PM
This discussion of influences leads me to ask: What does it mean to you to be a Buddhist / Zen writer? Do you identify yourself that way? How, if at all, have the principles of Zen influenced your work?
Gassho,
Hensho
sat
JimInBC
02-19-2021, 05:33 PM
This discussion of influences leads me to ask: What does it mean to you to be a Buddhist / Zen writer? Do you identify yourself that way? How, if at all, have the principles of Zen influenced your work?
Gassho,
Hensho
satThat's an interesting question. I don't consider myself a Buddhist or Zen writer. But the subject matter of Buddhism certainly shows up in my poetry at times.
I'm not sure the principles of Zen have directly influenced me as a writer. I think where the influence has come is through reading and writing haiku. That sense of direct experience in haiku, the way so much can be conveyed with the right image(s) and precisely chosen words.
Thanks for setting up this thread and asking such interesting questions.
Gassho, Jim
ST/LaH
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Onkai
02-19-2021, 07:12 PM
In my fiction, I don't find I write about specifically Zen or Buddhist themes, but Zen practice helps me look at things in different perspectives, to get into the skin of different characters.
Gassho,
Onkai
Sat/lah
Hensho
04-23-2021, 04:56 PM
Onkai:
I've been away for a little while, so please excuse the late reply. I've been thinking about what you said. I see Buddhist themes in my work (from even before I began practice), but maybe it is Zen practice itself that is the deeper influence these days. Maybe it's the sitting that brings clarity of thought. Perhaps it is a different way of seeing and knowing.
Gassho,
Hensho
sat
Angel
11-08-2021, 02:49 AM
Let me start this by asking: What is the Zen Aesthetic and how, if at all, does it inform your writing?
Zen Aesthetic. Ironically, it is so close, I had thought you anticipated my answer - Zen Authentic. Because, Zen is nothing if not authentic. My writing allows me to share myself with another human being. That is a gift; and one that I do not have without writing. I have autism level two. My hardware doesn't allow me to express myself authentically in real time. Which means, I do not connect with others in real time. Many would argue that this isn't even the most isolating of the many I possess. So, I write. I try; rather than telling a narrative, I try to share my experience. Sometimes, it works. When it does, I get the privilege of expressing myself authentically to another human being.
Angel - sat
Hensho
11-08-2021, 05:08 AM
Thank you for your post about the Zen Authentic. It's a interesting twist. May I ask how Zen Buddhism has made you a more authentic writer...or if it has at all?
Gasho,
Hensho
Sat
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Angel
11-09-2021, 02:38 PM
May I ask how Zen Buddhism has made you a more authentic writer...or if it has at all?
Yes, you may. Years ago, I would have clicked 'post quick reply' after those first three words. Today, I understand that you believe that you already have asked.
I have an answer, but not the words. I shall return when I have them. gassho2
sat
Rather than begin a new post; I've decided to add to this one. This is what arose:
Zen introduced me to the stillness from which my words arise. I find the stillness and rest in it, allowing it to burn away everything that isn't truth. Whatever is left gets written.
Angel - sat
Tai Shi
11-11-2021, 03:25 PM
I wear my rakusu now. I have added this word to my personal dictionary in spell check. So important is my garment of the Buddha, I shall wear this into the nwxt world. When a man comes close to death, much becomes clear. What we see, what we know and do not know. I am 70-years -old. In my mind. I am 25 and finally solving the solving my personal. Zen has taugh me modweation in my spendingg. I have an outstanding balance of money. This month I will owe $75 on my credit card. Next month it will be paid in full. At one time, this card had a balance of $5250, with money from my Social Security, now I don't. My Brain Surgery showed me sevral imedite things. Truley there is no bith no death. My body will be dust soon. When I was 25, life meant very little. Then 5 years I married, then 5 years later sobriety, 2 years became a proud father. All my life from 37 on. I look at the errors in this entry.
Gassho
sat/ lah
Hensho
11-12-2021, 04:36 AM
Tai Shi, friend: gassho.
How nice to see you on these pages. I have been waiting for you.
Thank you for reminding me of the beauty of expression. It is all just so.
Deep bows,
Hensho
Satlah
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