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Myogan
09-15-2017, 12:14 AM
Now what is the translation/description in English of Cho, Tan, Maneki, Sao, En, and Joro?

This is a call out to anyone who knows.

I believe the En is 円 which originally meant circle before it came to represent the Japanese unit of currency. Hard to say with out the Kanji.

Anybody have other ideas?

Gassho
Sat

Shokai
09-15-2017, 12:45 AM
myogan;
like you said, it all depends on the Kanji.
Using jisho.org there are many variants
especially where a Joro can be an Edo period Prostitute or a species of spider4528

to answer Tom's question, it doesn't matter, they are just words used to designate various pieces of the puzzle
for instance, cho can mean a unit of measurement but, not in this case ; also Maneki can be an introduction of preface as well as a cat: go figure

gassho, Shokai

sat/LAH

Shingen
09-15-2017, 01:18 AM
Hey folks,

I also think that Thomas was asking more in reference to the Rakusu and it parts, as oppose to its literal meaning, but that is just my understanding. =)

Gassho
Shingen

SatToday/LAH

Jundo
09-15-2017, 01:41 AM
especially where a Joro can be an Edo period Prostitute or a species of spider



No, those are homonyms, but very different words, very different Kanji. Like Shokai can mean "Life Open" as in your name, or this breed of dog in Korea ... both you and the pup very cute ...

http://www.dogbreedslist.info/uploads/allimg/dog-pictures/Korean-Jindo-Dog-3.jpg

如法衣 = Nyohou-e

Consists of 3 Kanji ...

Nyo 如 Like, in keeping with, resembling https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%A6%82

Hou 法 Law, Dharma, the Buddha's Teachings https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%B3%95#Japanese

E 衣 Robe, clothing https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%A1%A3#Japanese

I notice that, often, elements such as "sao" and "maneki" are written in kana, as the Kanji are not so common now.

http://www.kogonji.jp/fukudenkai/3/8sun_1.gif

For example, Sao may originally have been this, 棹, which is the neck of a violin for example, or this 竿, a pole ... but many now I am finding online just write in kana, as in the above diagram.

You can explore more around this Japanese Fukudenkai (福田会 Lucky Field Meeting) sewing group page and their diagrams ...

http://www.kogonji.jp/fukudenkai/3/3.html

http://www.kogonji.jp/fukudenkai/fukudenkai.html

Interestingly, "Jorou" seems to literally mean 助牢 ... helping (助) secure, imprison (牢). The thing that helps secure.

Maneki is probably related to "summon" (招く)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%8B%9B%E3%81%8F

Gassho, J

SatTodayLAH

Chishou
09-15-2017, 01:44 AM
Would Kakunen san know?


Ask not what the Sangha can do for you, but what you can do for the Sangha.

Jundo
09-15-2017, 02:08 AM
Chou ... a long piece ... certainly comes from the Kanji for "long" ... "chou, nagai" ...長

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%95%B7#Kanji

Tan ... short piece ... from "short" ... "tan, mijikai" ... 短

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%9F%AD#Japanese

En , yes, can mean a circle (or coin), but it can also be a surrounding frame ... 円

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%86%86#Chinese

Was that everything?


Gassho, J

SatTodayLAH

Myogan
09-15-2017, 04:02 AM
Hey folks,

I also think that Thomas was asking more in reference to the Rakusu and it parts, as oppose to its literal meaning, but that is just my understanding. =)

Probably. I'm just taking advantage of the question To provide several benefits. Studying is always better if you can immerse yourself in it, in this case not only with language but the study of the rakusu. It also can bring the community together in a different way. After all, how many Zendos can you learn how to say prostitute in a foreign-language ?

Gassho
Sat

Shingen
09-15-2017, 04:05 AM
Probably. I'm just taking advantage of the question To provide several benefits. Studying is always better if you can immerse yourself in it, in this case not only with language but the study of the rakusu. It also can bring the community together in a different way. After all, how many Zendos can you learn how to say prostitute in a foreign-language ?

Gassho
SatSounds good Myogan! [emoji106]

Gassho
Shingen

SatToday/LAH