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Kakunen
07-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Hi

I finished 15days Sesshin from July 1st.

wake up 2Am and sleep around 10Pm.

I am very sleepy.

But very comfortable and tired... how to say... can not express word.

And Will start again August 1st...

But I do not leave here...

How long do you sit Sesshin?Can we share about experiense?

Gassho


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Kyonin
07-24-2017, 11:25 PM
Hi Kakunen,

Sesshin in Mexico are not popular. People here won't sit for long times. I have gone to 6 days sesshin but there I haven't found any sesshin longer than that.

There are Vipassana retreats of up to 10 days, but I'm not interested in those.

I'm glad you had a good experience. Thank you for your practice.

Gassho,

Kyonin
Sat/LAH

Mp
07-24-2017, 11:49 PM
Hello Kakunen ... Sesshins are wonderful and a benefit to practice, but also remember to get some extra sleep and take care when you are done. A happy balance is important.

Gassho
Shingen

SatToday/LAH

Kakunen
07-25-2017, 03:23 AM
Hi

Dharma home leaving friends Shingen and Kyonin.

I am right here feel be with you.

Will take rest.I will report after take a rest.

I am now at good friend!I am with her and baby,I will share after.

Best regards with all Treeleafer.

Not important just Sessjin.
Just sit 10 minutes is Sesshin.

This is what Jundo was teaches me with mind and mind.

I am grad my mind will good direction,deeply inside.

Thank you Jundo and every Treeleafer.
This Sangha is kind of my home.

^_^

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Jundo
07-25-2017, 03:36 AM
Hi

I finished 15days Sesshin from July 1st.

wake up 2Am and sleep around 10Pm.

I am very sleepy.

But very comfortable and tired... how to say... can not express word.

And Will start again August 1st...

But I do not leave here...

How long do you sit Sesshin?Can we share about experiense?

Gassho



Yes, your story will inspire our folks during the upcoming San Francisco Retreat, who will be finishing last Zazen at 10pm, getting up at 5:30am. Simply luxurious in comparison!

But, right, this is what I always say:


Not important just Sessjin.
Just sit 10 minutes is Sesshin.

This is what Jundo was teaches me with mind and mind.

Yes, there is a time to sit very long and many days, and there is a time to sit short, even a minute or a moment ... All good Zazen.

When we sit many hours and days in a Monastic Sesshin, it is sometimes very important to sit hard and long ... sitting with the "me myself i" ... all to realize the True Meaning of "nothing to attain, no goal."

Sitting short time can also be the True Meaning of "nothing to attain, no goal" for the wise heart.

However ... whether sitting long time or short time ... it is very very important to always sit Zazen beyond time, dropping all mental measures of time, thought of before or after or even now.

Gassho, J

SatToday(beyond today)LAH

PS - I know some Rinzai monasteries in Korea where they claim not to sleep at all for 1 week of Sesshin! It is true. Very intense work on Koan.


During yongmaeng chôngjin, the monks in meditation hall do not sleep for seven
straight days, breaking from their practice only for meals. They even skip the
dinner ritual in the main Buddha hall so as to devote themselves completely to their
meditation. In this intensive period, the monks face one another in two separate
rows down the middle of the meditation hall, rather than facing away as they
usually do. ... Otherwise the meditation sessions take place pretty much as
always, with fifty-minute sitting periods followed by ten minutes of walking. But if
the succentor feels people are tiring, he might quicken the pace to twenty-five
minutes sitting followed by five minutes walking, walk for longer periods, or try
any number of other stratagems to keep his charges vibrant (or at least awake).
Other than its obvious interminableness, the major difference between
yongmaeng chôngjin and regular meditation periods is that the large warning stick
(changgun chukpi) is in use constantly throughout each sitting period....
If the drowsy monk does not react to the guard's presence, the guard taps
him on the shoulder with the stick and gives him one round of blows.

As grueling as yongmaeng chôngjin might seem to the uninitiated, its purpose is
not to torture the monks. Rather it provides an incredibly intense, but still carefully
controlled, environment in which to meditate. The hope is that several days of
sleeplessness will apply enough pressure on the meditators that they will be able to
have a genuine breakthrough into their meditation topics, or hwadu ("critical
phrase" [of a Koan, such as "MU"]).

http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?15044-sitting-zazen-timeless-time&p=192695&viewfull=1#post192695

Kakunen, maybe you go to that monastery next?!? :p

Kakunen
07-25-2017, 03:39 AM
Yes, your story will inspire our folks during the upcoming San Francisco Retreat, who will be finishing last Zazen at 10pm, getting up at 5:30am. Simply luxurious in comparison!

But, right, this is what I always say:



Yes, there is a time to sit very long and many days, and there is a time to sit short, even a minute or a moment ... All good Zazen.

When we sit many hours and days in a Monastic Sesshin, it is sometimes very important to sit hard and long ... sitting with the "me myself i" ... all to realize the True Meaning of "nothing to attain, no goal."

Sitting short time can also be the True Meaning of "nothing to attain, no goal" for the wise heart.

However ... whether sitting long time or short time ... it is very very important to always sit Zazen beyond time, dropping all mental measures of time, thought of before or after or even now.

Gassho, J

SatToday(beyond today)LAH

PS - I know some Rinzai monasteries in Korea where they claim not to sleep at all for 1 week of Sesshin! It is true. Very intense work on Koan.

^_^


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Kakunen
07-25-2017, 03:53 AM
Yes, your story will inspire our folks during the upcoming San Francisco Retreat, who will be finishing last Zazen at 10pm, getting up at 5:30am. Simply luxurious in comparison!

But, right, this is what I always say:



Yes, there is a time to sit very long and many days, and there is a time to sit short, even a minute or a moment ... All good Zazen.

When we sit many hours and days in a Monastic Sesshin, it is sometimes very important to sit hard and long ... sitting with the "me myself i" ... all to realize the True Meaning of "nothing to attain, no goal."

Sitting short time can also be the True Meaning of "nothing to attain, no goal" for the wise heart.

However ... whether sitting long time or short time ... it is very very important to always sit Zazen beyond time, dropping all mental measures of time, thought of before or after or even now.

Gassho, J

SatToday(beyond today)LAH

PS - I know some Rinzai monasteries in Korea where they claim not to sleep at all for 1 week of Sesshin! It is true. Very intense work on Koan.


http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?15044-sitting-zazen-timeless-time&p=192695&viewfull=1#post192695

Kakunen, maybe you go to that monastery next?!? :p

Jundo I will decide to go about monastery,carefully.

I don't want to just obey only Japanese economic system of Soto Sect.

This is not Buddhism.I think.

I will carefully choice my way.

Maybe I will be Shukke Tokudo under Treeleafer...

Half joke,half real^_^

I love you Jundo^_^


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Jundo
07-25-2017, 04:18 AM
Jundo I will decide to go about monastery,carefully.

I don't want to just obey only Japanese economic system of Soto Sect.

This is not Buddhism.I think.

I will carefully choice my way.

Maybe I will be Shukke Tokudo under Treeleafer...

Half joke,half real^_^

I love you Jundo^_^


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Get some sleep.

Kakunen
07-25-2017, 11:24 PM
Get some sleep.

Hi

I was given 2 rest days.
I came guest house at here.

http://sammies.jp/

Yesterday I make dinner and talk with three people,everybody have experience to go Western country,we are all Japanese member but We talk by English.

I feel like living in earth.

17 years old and 21 years old young man and 33 years old woman with baby.

I will take rest till night.

I am grad to allow to stay here by my head monk.

My life was getting better,feel deeply inside


Will share photos.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/73e384dfa2a032b06570ee0a1a7add83.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/ba94ea06f4e75d7d18a107602b9cf907.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/2310c3fa157023fb37d787fb3065fed7.jpg


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Mp
07-26-2017, 01:34 AM
Hi

I was given 2 rest days.
I came guest house at here.

http://sammies.jp/

Yesterday I make dinner and talk with three people,everybody have experience to go Western country,we are all Japanese member but We talk by English.

I feel like living in earth.

17 years old and 21 years old young man and 33 years old woman with baby.

I will take rest till night.

I am grad to allow to stay here by my head monk.

My life was getting better,feel deeply inside


Will share photos.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/73e384dfa2a032b06570ee0a1a7add83.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/ba94ea06f4e75d7d18a107602b9cf907.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/2310c3fa157023fb37d787fb3065fed7.jpg


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That is some awesome hair! =)

Gassho
Shingen

SatToday/LAH

Kakunen
07-26-2017, 10:44 AM
That is some awesome hair! =)

Gassho
Shingen

SatToday/LAH

Her smile ease my soul^_^


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Kyonin
07-26-2017, 08:31 PM
That hair reminds me of something...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8tEQaogPgIc/TLx8V84XbUI/AAAAAAAAAIU/ALo_jB0Hx0s/s1600/GokuMeditando.jpg
Gassho,

Kyonin
Sat/LAH

Kakunen
07-26-2017, 10:33 PM
That hair reminds me of something...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8tEQaogPgIc/TLx8V84XbUI/AAAAAAAAAIU/ALo_jB0Hx0s/s1600/GokuMeditando.jpg
Gassho,

Kyonin
Sat/LAH

Wow!Japanese Gokuu?I am not sure,but he is powerful and fun!


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Geika
07-26-2017, 11:33 PM
Yes! "Powerful and fun." Perfect words to describe Goku!

Gassho, sat today, lah