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Jundo
02-15-2016, 05:24 PM
Welcome to our re-opened Oryoki Practice Circle, to be guided by Shugen.

Starting soon, folks interested in the art of formal Zen-style Meal Taking Ritual will gather to Practice in this area of our Treeleaf Forum.

Shugen will be around here in the coming days with further information.

Oryoki is the art of mindful eating as a sacred act, receiving just enough with gratitude. It is a dance, a ceremony, into which the self is poured as the self is nourished. One eats savoring each bite, yet also dropping all likes and dislikes, aversions and attractions as best one can. This food is medicine to sustain our lives and Practice.

Some other descriptions from various sources:


Oryoki (応量器, “Just enough”) is a meditative form of eating that originated in Japan that emphasizes mindfulness awareness practice by abiding to a strict order of precise movements. Oryoki translates to “Just enough” which refers to the efficiency and accuracy of the form. Each movement is a simple reference point for the mind that encourages one to become present and not wonder in discursive thought. An Oryoki set consists of nested bowls called a jihatsu, usually made of lacquered wood, and utensils all wrapped in a tied cloth .... This is the formal style of serving and eating meals practiced in Zen temples. [Note from Jundo: Shugen will have information on how to make a very good Oryoki set just from items you have at home, so no need to procure a special set for Practice]

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The word Oryoki can be translated as “that which contains just enough.” In a more general sense it refers to the ritual use of nested eating bowls during Zen meditation retreats. Oryoki meals are simple but precise in detail and flow – from chanting together to placement of utensils, being served, eating, and finally to washing and re-wrapping the sets of bowls.

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Our Oryoki lineage began with Dogen Zenji, who traveled from Japan to China many centuries ago. ... [In China] he learned the ways of a Buddhist monk, including the monastic eating practice used in China at the time. Dogen Zenji returned to Japan and introduced that style of eating along with some refinements of form. During a few centuries of practice the great Zen masters refined the practice further and passed it down. The Zen tradition of Oryoki as it exists today has a remarkable sense of elegance and fine attention to detail.

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Upon hearing the mallet for completion of serving food, immediately gassho, and then we chant Verse of Five Contemplations:


We reflect on the effort that brought us this food and consider how it comes to us.
We reflect on our virtue and practice, and whether we are worthy of this offering.
We regard it as essential to free ourselves of excesses such as greed.
We regard this food as good medicine to sustain our life.
For the sake of enlightenment, we now receive this food.





Master Dogen has written ...


A sutra says: When we are intimate with the food we eat, there is intimacy with all things; when we are intimate with all things, we are intimate with the food we eat. We should let all things and eating be intimate with each other because when each thing is Reality then eating is also Reality. When all things are Suchness, then eating is also Suchness. When all things are One Awareness, then eating also is One Awareness. When all things are Awakened Intelligence, then eating is also Awakened Intelligence. Any name that can be applied to it and the Reality spoken of are this intimacy so we can call all of this intimately single. ...

http://www.wwzc.org/dharma-text/fushukuhanpo-how-use-your-bowls


Gassho, Jundo
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Jakuden
02-15-2016, 05:44 PM
Excellent! Thank you!

Gassho,
Jakuden
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Jika
02-15-2016, 08:06 PM
Thank you, Jundo and Shugen.

I hope to be able to join you sometimes.

Gassho
Jika
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Mp
02-15-2016, 09:11 PM
Looking good, thank you Shugen.

Gassho
Shingen


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Sekishi
02-15-2016, 09:17 PM
Awesome! Thank you Shugen.

Gassho,
Sekishi
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Sue
02-15-2016, 11:59 PM
I am grateful for this information and if time allows I will be taking part.
Deep bows to Shugen and Jundo.
Sue
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Shokai
02-16-2016, 02:51 AM
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Washin
02-16-2016, 07:01 AM
Thank you all. Looking forward to practising together.
Gassho
Washin
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Shugen
02-16-2016, 03:53 PM
Hello all,

Thank you Jundo for that wonderful introduction to the practice of Oryoki!

We will meet Sundays beginning at 9:30am New York City time (6:30am Los Angeles time, 2:30pm London time). Each session will last under an hour.

Does the first Sunday in March (the 6th) sound like a good starting date? That should give us plenty of time to gather any materials that we may need.

(I will post a list of materials and instructions on how to create a “homemade” Oryoki set in the upcoming days)

I look forward to learning together!

Gassho,

Shugen

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Sue
02-18-2016, 12:20 PM
Shugen, Sundays are looking good for me. I was just promoted at work and it looks like Sunday will finally be an off work day for me so I am excited to hopefully be participating.
Looking forward to receiving your instructions and materials list.
Gassho,
Sue
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Kyonin
02-18-2016, 12:26 PM
Thank you Jundo and Shugen.

Will love to see you there.

Gassho,

Kyonin
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Shugen
02-18-2016, 12:27 PM
Shugen, Sundays are looking good for me. I was just promoted at work and it looks like Sunday will finally be an off work day for me so I am excited to hopefully be participating.
Looking forward to receiving your instructions and materials list.
Gassho,
Sue
Sat today

Congratulations on your promotion!

Gassho,

Shugen

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Shugen
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Sue
02-19-2016, 01:49 AM
Shugen thank you.
Gassho
Sue
Sat today.

Anneliese
02-23-2016, 04:54 AM
Thank you for offering this! :) I'm interested in participating.

Gassho
Anneliese
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Jika
02-23-2016, 06:52 AM
Wow, Shugen, how did you manage to see I got hungry during Zazen? [scared]

I could need some input what food is good for oryoki beginners.
My Rohatsu attempt did not exactly yield ambrosia (while all foods being so, some taste mixtures are more easily appreciated...)

Gassho
Jika
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Shugen
02-23-2016, 12:36 PM
Hi Jika,

I like to keep it pretty simple, especially at first. In the largest bowl (the "Buddha" bowl) something plain, like rice or some type of grain. In the second bowl, something a little more flavorful, yogurt and fruit or some cooked vegetables. And in the final, smallest bowl, perhaps a soup or some juice.. All of the bowls have names by the way, which we will learn. The trick is to pick things that aren't too messy but are still satisfying. One of the nice things about going on retreats is that the food is decided for you, you just choose how much to take!

We will be taking it nice and slow with this so we'll have plenty of time to work things out.

Gassho,

Shugen

#sattoday


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Hoseki
02-23-2016, 02:22 PM
Hi Jika,

I like to keep it pretty simple, especially at first. In the largest bowl (the "Buddha" bowl) something plain, like rice or some type of grain. In the second bowl, something a little more flavorful, yogurt and fruit or some cooked vegetables. And in the final, smallest bowl, perhaps a soup or some juice.. All of the bowls have names by the way, which we will learn. The trick is to pick things that aren't too messy but are still satisfying. One of the nice things about going on retreats is that the food is decided for you, you just choose how much to take!

We will be taking it nice and slow with this so we'll have plenty of time to work things out.

Gassho,

Shugen

#sattoday


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Thank you Shugen!

Gassho,

Sat today

Adam

Washin
02-23-2016, 05:04 PM
In the largest bowl (the "Buddha" bowl) something plain, like rice or some type of grain. In the second bowl, something a little more flavorful, yogurt and fruit or some cooked vegetables. And in the final, smallest bowl, perhaps a soup or some juice.. All of the bowls have names by the way, which we will learn. The trick is to pick things that aren't too messy but are still satisfying. One of the nice things about going on retreats is that the food is decided for you, you just choose how much to take!

We will be taking it nice and slow with this so we'll have plenty of time to work things out. gassho1

Thank you, Shugen. Looking forward to the start of the Circle.

Gassho,
Washin
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Shugen
02-23-2016, 11:04 PM
Hello all,

This is a nice, general overview of what we will be doing in the coming weeks. Please DO NOT try and memorize it. What we will be doing will be a little different.

http://terebess.hu/zen/szoto/oryoki-instructions.pdf

The PDF does give an idea of what materials will be needed and how to make a utensil holder (Your holder does not have to be as elaborate - something similar will work). We will be using the "Traditional Oryoki" as opposed to the "Student's Oryoki" with a few exceptions: (One large bowl and two smaller bowls will be fine - no stand for the "Buddha Bowl" unless one is needed - A fork may be substituted for chopsticks) We will need a "hatton" (which is a sort of placemat - we should be able to create a usable one out of black construction/craft paper - I'll give you more details at a later time) and a "mizuita" (which is a small, thin board that was traditionally used as a rain cover for a monk's traveling bag - I'll also give you more details on that at a later time). For cloth colors, I would lean toward grays and blues for the wrapping cloth, utensil holder and the lap/napkin cloth - the drying cloth can be any neutral color.

I will post a video of the set I will be using and provide some more detailed information in the next few days. Please feel free to ask any questions that you may have!

Gassho,

Shugen

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Mp
02-23-2016, 11:30 PM
Awesome, thank you Shugen. =)

Gassho
Shingen

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Shokai
02-24-2016, 12:39 AM
Thanks Shugen;
This is great! Looking forward to joining the training on March 6
gassho, Shokai

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Jakuden
02-24-2016, 02:08 AM
Thank you Shugen!


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Jika
02-24-2016, 08:06 AM
Thank you, Shugen.

Gassho
Jika
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Dosho
02-27-2016, 12:51 AM
Shugen,

Very glad to see you doing this! :)

Gassho,
Dosho

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Shugen
02-27-2016, 03:07 AM
Shugen,

Very glad to see you doing this! :)

Gassho,
Dosho

Sat today

Thank you Dosho. [emoji846]

Gassho,

Shugen

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Shugen
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Ongen
02-29-2016, 01:50 PM
Wonderful, Thanks Shugen!
I will try to keep up :D

Gassho
Ongen
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Shugen
03-01-2016, 08:13 PM
Hello all,

For our first meeting this upcoming Sunday (New York Time) we will go over the different components of an Oryoki set. I have an obligation for the following Sunday so we will meet again in two weeks. By then, everyone should have had enough time to get their set ready to go. From that point on, I would like to meet every week if at all possible. The meetings will be recorded so if one is missed, No Worries!

I look forward to our first meeting!

Gassho,

Shugen

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Mp
03-01-2016, 09:16 PM
Hello all,

For our first meeting this upcoming Sunday (New York Time) we will go over the different components of an Oryoki set. I have an obligation for the following Sunday so we will meet again in two weeks. By then, everyone should have had enough time to get their set ready to go. From that point on, I would like to meet every week if at all possible. The meetings will be recorded so if one is missed, No Worries!

I look forward to our first meeting!

Gassho,

Shugen

#sattoday

Woohoo, thank you Shugen ... I will be there Sunday bowls ready. =)

Gassho
Shingen

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Sue
03-02-2016, 02:31 AM
Shingen spoke my words of WOOHOO, yeah I am ready to learn and enjoy the process.
Gassho
Sue
Sat today

Washin
03-02-2016, 06:52 AM
Thank you Shugen.
Looking forward to see you all there.

Gassho
Washin
just sat

Seido
03-03-2016, 06:56 PM
I don't think I'm going to be able to attend these live, but I'm really looking forward to this. Thank you for putting this together.

Gassho,
Seidō
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Byokan
03-04-2016, 12:44 AM
Hello all,

For our first meeting this upcoming Sunday (New York Time) we will go over the different components of an Oryoki set. I have an obligation for the following Sunday so we will meet again in two weeks. By then, everyone should have had enough time to get their set ready to go. From that point on, I would like to meet every week if at all possible. The meetings will be recorded so if one is missed, No Worries!

I look forward to our first meeting!

Gassho,

Shugen

#sattoday

Oh! Do you mean, this will be accessible for later viewing, like our Zazenkai? (Please o please say yes!)

Gassho
Byōkan
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Shugen
03-04-2016, 11:55 AM
Oh! Do you mean, this will be accessible for later viewing, like our Zazenkai? (Please o please say yes!)

Gassho
Byōkan
sat today

Yes! [emoji3]

Gassho,

Shugen

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Jika
03-04-2016, 12:04 PM
Uhm, oh, so will this instruction - the different components of an Oryoki set - be recorded only?

Or will the broadcast involve me fumbling with chopsticks and dropping rice on the rakusu? [scared]

And, most important, are we going to eat coming Sunday, or not (it's 2:30pm for me, so lunch or no lunch?)?

This will be fun.
Thank you all,
Gassho
Jika
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Shugen
03-04-2016, 12:20 PM
Uhm, oh, so will this instruction - the different components of an Oryoki set - be recorded only?

Or will the broadcast involve me fumbling with chopsticks and dropping rice on the rakusu? [scared]

And, most important, are we going to eat coming Sunday, or not (it's 2:30pm for me, so lunch or no lunch?)?

This will be fun.
Thank you all,
Gassho
Jika
#sattoday

Hi Jika,

The meetings will be recorded. (Don't worry about fumbling with the chopsticks, that will be my job!) And, no food for a while.

It will be fun [emoji846]

Gassho,

Shugen

#sattoday


Shugen
明道 修眼
As a priest in training, please take everything I say with a "pinch of salt"

Entai
04-06-2016, 08:21 PM
Well, I'm a little late to this but am very interested. I have done oryoki a few times using the Rohatsu recordings as a guide. I work Sundays but will be following the recordings. Thanks Shugen!

Gassho,
Entai
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Shugen
04-06-2016, 11:16 PM
Well, I'm a little late to this but am very interested. I have done oryoki a few times using the Rohatsu recordings as a guide. I work Sundays but will be following the recordings. Thanks Shugen!

Gassho,
Entai
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Join in whenever you can [emoji3]

Gassho,

Shugen

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