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    Stepping away from Treeleaf

    hey all,

    I only write this because folks here are so kind-hearted and I'd hate it if anyone said "What happened to that SonofRage guy?" and worried, but it is with some sadness that I have to let everyone know that I am stepping away from the Treeleaf sangha.

    When I first joined Treeleaf, I was a very new father who was unable to visit his temple or engage with a teacher for many months due to the time contraints that come with having a newborn child. Just a month before I joined Treeleaf, I finally went back to my temple and ended up having to call an ambulance after my teacher was discovered on the floor of the bathroom barely conscious and unresponsive. My teacher, Myo Ji Sunim, passed away a few days later having never regained consciousness.

    So, I joined Treeleaf when I was in a place of seeking a new teacher. Recently, I guess I've started to realize/accept that I seem to have more "karmic affinity" with Korean Seon style practice(s) and have been able to make time to visit my old temple again on a regular basis. As a result, my primary practice has shifted from Shikantaza to Hwadu or Ganhwa Seon under the guidance of Do Am Sunim in the Kwan Um School of Zen.

    Jundo has made clear, both publicly and privately, that Treeleaf is centered on Shikantaza and Soto Practice. As such, it is not really appropriate for me to participate here when Shikantaza has not been my practice and I have been working with a teacher from another tradition.

    Please don't take this at all to be a slight against Jundo, Taigu, or Treeleaf! To be able to practice the dharma in this way is a precious precious gift that you should all treasure. I wish you all the best on your path, as I know you wish me on mine. If there's anything I can help with from a technology standpoint, I will always be happy to lend my assistance.

    yours in the dharma,

    -Sam

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    It feels odd to bump this old thread, but I'm thinking of coming back to Treeleaf. I love my current teacher, but it's just difficult sometimes to go to temple as often as I'd like with work and family obligations. I find myself often slipping into shikantaza anyway so maybe I should just embrace it.

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    Hello,

    Welcome home, Sam.


    Gassho
    Myosha sat today
    Last edited by Myosha; 10-03-2015 at 12:21 AM.
    "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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    You have to ask "pretty please with sugar on top"

    Yes, here is Shikantaza. There is no escape.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday

    Ps - We also ask folks to sign a first name now, and also that they "satToday" at least once before posting. I hope that is okay.

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...ore-Forum-Chat
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    You have to ask "pretty please with sugar on top"

    Yes, here is Shikantaza. There is no escape.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatToday

    Ps - We also ask folks to sign a first name now, and also that they "satToday" at least once before posting. I hope that is okay.

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...ore-Forum-Chat
    I can do the pretty please, but I recommend splenda because sugar is bad for your physical health!

    Thank you for the protocol update.

    -Sam

    SatToday!
    Last edited by SoR; 10-03-2015 at 07:57 PM.

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    Hey there!

    Gassho,

    Risho
    -sattoday

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    Good to see you again!

    -satToday
    Thanks,
    Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
    Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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    Kyotai
    Guest
    Good to see you return

    Gassho, kyotai
    Sat today

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    Sam, I am touched by this thread. It's a wonder how our personal paths tend to wander, responding to the fair winds of life. Going forth as the way opens, as the Quakers say. Treeleaf does fill the accessibility gap for lots of folks, myself included. Glad you're back. Glad you and the family are well.
    _/st\_ Shinzan

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    Nice to meet you, Sam

    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday

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    Pleased to meet you sam. Welcome back.

    Gassho,

    Simon

    Sat today

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    It's all a wonderful dance - good to see you here again,

    Gassho

    Willow

    sat today

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