Sit-a-Long with Jundo: Zazen for Beginners (Part XVI)

[Jundo]

We sit Zazen “dropping all thoughts of right and wrong, good and bad“… taking life just as it comes, without judgment…

But, gee, don’t some think that we Buddhists have no sense of “right and wrong.”

WE MOST CERTAINLY DO!

(If you are going to do this Zen thing, ya have to learn the art of experiencing life from seemingly incongruous perspectives: For example, all paths up life’s mountain go just where they go, are what they are, lead where they lead… But some lead right off a cliff!)

I mean, we drop all resistance to life, drop all ideas of how life “should be” vs. “how it is” … yet, hand-in-hand (like the other side of a single coin), we also know that some ways of leading life do great harm, cause pain, bring suffering to us and to those around us.

Thus, the Bodhisattva Precepts are at the heart of our Practice. NOT hard and fast laws or “Commandments from Heaven,” each precept is rather an arrow pointing out a good path — toward a life of peace, gentleness, balance, moderation, health, satisfaction. They guide us to avoid the taking of life, stealing, abusing others, abusing our bodies, engaging in anger, harsh speech, and wrong actions...

All the Precepts basically come down to this: One is guided to seek, as one can, not to do harm… and to live in a way that is healthful and beneficial to oneself and others. (Oneself and others are not truly separate, by the way.) .

Living by the Precepts supports and sustains the Practice of Zazen, because one simply cannot taste the sweet fruits of our Practice if filled with anger, violence, greed, and excess. (And in such a case, all of your life, and maybe the lives of those you impact, will likely be a mess too!) In turn, the Practice of Zazen supports and nurtures living by the Precepts.

In fact, Zazen --is-- living by the Precepts, Living by the Precepts nothing besides Zazen.
Early in one’s Buddhist Practice, one should begin to learn about each of the Buddhist Precepts and seek to take them to heart.

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[Rezdogdad]

So is following the "arrows", ie. precepts, what is meant by "skillful means" (I've read it called "upaya")? Is it fair to think of behaviors as being as they are and accepting them as they are, but acknowledging that some are more skillful than others? And aren't the precepts situational - in other words, they don't represent absolute mandates but are more guidelines for skillfully negotiating life?

Gassho,

Eric

[Jundo]

So is following the "arrows", ie. precepts, what is meant by "skillful means" (I've read it called "upaya")? Is it fair to think of behaviors as being as they are and accepting them as they are, but acknowledging that some are more skillful than others? And aren't the precepts situational - in other words, they don't represent absolute mandates but are more guidelines for skillfully negotiating life?

Gassho,

Eric

Hi Eric,

"Skillful means" is usually taken to refer to doing any necessary thing or technique to skillfully get these Buddhist Teachings across ... such as crawling into a bathtub with a funny hat. Not sure if the bathtub was skillful or just all wet. A famous example is from the Lotus Sutra, a father who promises his children all kinds of imaginary goodies outside to lure them out of a burning house [a burning house of greed, anger and ignorance]. So, it refers more to teaching activities than the Precepts as such. More here ...

http://www.ancientdragon.org/dharma/...skillful_means

But as to you statement on the Precepts, yes, they involve living skillfully too. The Precepts, more than mandates or "Commandments" from on high, might be said to be guides or arrows pointing toward conduct that leads away from harm to self and others (not two by the way) ... and toward conduct which is healthful and beneficial. So, for example, like cows grazing in a wide pasture, there is no need for a fence until that point where they might wander off a cliff or into a road and be hit by a truck! They point to a way of living that seeks to free us from greed, anger and ignorance. Yes, there are Karmic effects from our harmful volitional conduct ... great suffering for ourselves and those around us (not two by the way).

We have a Precepts study group in the fall looking forward to Jukai. However, you may also read and learn about the Precepts at any time.

http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/forum...Y-SEWING-FORUM

Gassho, Jundo

[Rezdogdad]

Thank you. This helps me a lot.

Hi Eric,

"Skillful means" is usually taken to refer to doing any necessary thing or technique to skillfully get these Buddhist Teachings across ... such as crawling into a bathtub with a funny hat. Not sure if the bathtub was skillful or just all wet. A famous example is from the Lotus Sutra, a father who promises his children all kinds of imaginary goodies outside to lure them out of a burning house [a burning house of greed, anger and ignorance]. So, it refers more to teaching activities than the Precepts as such. More here ...

http://www.ancientdragon.org/dharma/...skillful_means

But as to you statement on the Precepts, yes, they involve living skillfully too. The Precepts, more than mandates or "Commandments" from on high, might be said to be guides or arrows pointing toward conduct that leads away from harm to self and others (not two by the way) ... and toward conduct which is healthful and beneficial. So, for example, like cows grazing in a wide pasture, there is no need for a fence until that point where they might wander off a cliff or into a road and be hit by a truck! They point to a way of living that seeks to free us from greed, anger and ignorance. Yes, there are Karmic effects from our harmful volitional conduct ... great suffering for ourselves and those around us (not two by the way).

We have a Precepts study group in the fall looking forward to Jukai. However, you may also read and learn about the Precepts at any time.

http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/forum...Y-SEWING-FORUM

Gassho, Jundo

[Clarinetist!]

So in dropping all thoughts of 'right and wrong', 'good and bad', is it like letting go of the negative emotions tied with those attachments? Would it be like using judgement as an effective 'calculator' to know what to do and not to do while still being open and free from the negative emotions attached to such a conception?

Gassho,
Alex

[Jundo]

Hi Alex,

No, we have a very good guide to "right" and "wrong" in the Precepts, which point us toward conduct avoiding harm to self and others (self and others are not two, by the way).

At the same moment in our Practice, we know a way of experiencing which is beyond any one to harm or do harm. But in this world of Samsara, there is good and bad.

Perhaps we should learn to drop and avoid excess or unjustified guilt and self-reproach, but I believe that a feeling of guilt and self-reproach is perfectly justified when we do something wrong that merits so (absent which, if we did not feel so, we may be sociopaths without a sense of guilt).

So, do good, avoid harm.

Gassho, Jundo