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    Jundo & Taigu 'Office Hours' (for Dokusan)

    Hi All,

    Taigu and I prefer to keep most discussion and teaching out and open though this Forum, where many members of the Sangha can support each other, offer advice and share together. We tend to emphasize private meetings for personal and sensitive matters, or just as a way to get to know and 'touch base' with everyone here from time to time. Especially during our Ango, many folks would like to meet and chat every so often.

    For that reason, Taigu and I would like to announce our most available "office hours". Because we are both in Japan, we will quote Japan time, and ask you to translate that to your own time zone and schedule. Other times may be available, but limited. Taigu apologizes that his hours cannot be more, but he is truly the "man working two --- maybe three --- jobs" in addition to his role here.

    PLEASE EMAIL JUNDO OR TAIGU A FEW DAYS IN ADVANCE (UNLESS URGENT, OF COURSE) TO SET A TIME. We prefer to videochat via Skype (Skype.com ... free, easy to install and use), so a camera is best.

    TAIGU EMAIL: http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/priva...=newpm&u=12185
    HOURS: Limited to Mondays, between 10am and 3pm, JAPAN TIME (except when he has sitting group)

    JUNDO EMAIL: jundotreeleaf[a]gmail.com
    SKYPE NAME: KEIZANDOGEN
    HOURS: Most weekdays (Monday through Friday) from 11AM (for a couple of hours) and from 10pm (for a couple of hours) ALL JAPAN TIME

    CURRENT TIME IN JAPAN (Do the math! ):
    http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_JP.aspx

    Also, please be aware that most such meetings (sometimes called "Dokusan" in Soto Zen or "Sanzen" in Rinzai Zen) are typically very friendly and informal in Soto practice, especially in the west and outside a monastery. Few mysterious "Koan-ish" interchanges and formalities (as in the pictures) ...




    ... and more a simple relaxed chat on "how are you?" and "how's your practice going?"

    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 10-12-2013 at 04:23 PM.

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    Re: Jundo Taigu 'Office Hours' (for Dokusan)

    If you would like to see what "Dokusan" likely won't look like here ( ... although one never knows what to expect ... 8) ) ... have a laugh here ...

    [youtube] [/youtube]


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    Re: Jundo Taigu 'Office Hours' (for Dokusan)

    Someone wrote me about "when is a good time for Dokusan". Here is what I said ...

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    I don't know how teachers at the other Sanghas you attended handled such, as it is varies teacher to teacher. However, generally, I think you know that in Rinzai Zen (and groups like the White Plum which are mixed Rinzai-Soto) many students are working through a set of Koans, and present their understanding to the teacher for each one. So, Dokusan (they call it Sanzen) is about that. So, a regular set of meetings must be scheduled.

    In Soto, especially in the West, Dokusan tends to be a more informal "how's it going, what's up?" with one's Practice. There is no particular set subject. In my case, I tend to keep 90% of the discussion out on the Community Forum, where many folks can benefit from the discussion or offer their insights. I like to use individual Dokusan for more private or sensitive matters or matters very particular to that person's practice that they wish to discuss one-on-one. It certainly is not a therapy session because the issue is always Zen and Zen Practice, but we can sometimes talk about something going on in the person's life and how that is Practice too.

    I also like to use Dokusan just to get to know folks a bit better from the Sangha and "touch base."

    So, I usually don't do regularly scheduled Dokusan with most people, only when something special 'comes up'. However, contact me or Taigu any time (our best hours to schedule Dokusan are posted above).

    Another thing is, like many westerners, I don't emphasize the formalities of Dokusan parodied in the above video ... and keep it "casual".

    Let's schedule a Dokusan sometime.

    Gassho, Jundo

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