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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    Kesa O kesa

    Hi everybody!

    We talked with Jundo about the possibility to record videos about sewing a seven stripes kesa. We thought it would be a wonderful opportunity to all, especially people who received the precepts. Kesa is not only for monks, in fact, as a rule, Dogen used to ask lay people sitting in Koshoji or Eiheiji to wear a kesa. Kesa is the robe of sitting-zen, not a clergy thing. It is the robe of as-it-is-ness, of "nothing special". Of course, Japanese Buddhism uses the robe as a way to show a sense of hierarchy these days, black for monks, brown for teachers, multicoloured for high ranked abbots and so forth...Nothing to do with the original tradition of the robe made of rags :roll: . In Nyohoe sewing style, in Sawaki Kodo school, people who sit are Buddha, Buddha wears a kesa. That simple. What can I say? i would be so glad to share with you this tradition. I could also put a bit of my broken English into good use and say a bit more about the two chapters of shobogenzo which are about the robe. But the main theme would be: hands on and needle work. Would you like to join? be part of this new venture?

    Take great care of yourself
    and of course
    study the self
    forget the self
    let all things preach the truth
    and swing, rock and roll,wash the dishes, wash the wishes and enjoy just being

    The froooooooooooooooooooooo-zen (frog-zen?) Taigu
  • Al
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 400

    #2
    Re: Kesa O kesa

    Hi Rev. Taigu, I would be really interested in learning how to sew the kesa. I'm so glad you're involved in our sangha.
    Gassho _/\_

    brokenpine.tumblr.com

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    • Shohei
      Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 2854

      #3
      Re: Kesa O kesa

      Hi Taigu!
      Yes please!! (and second what Shinkai said too)
      Ive been working away on one for a bit and will be finishing soon. I would love to sew another with all of you (of course the one im sewing now im sewing with all of you too...)

      Gassho, Shohei

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      • Dosho
        Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 5784

        #4
        Re: Kesa O kesa

        Hey Rev,

        Count me in! And ditto what the others have said, especially Shohei, who has been my Rev. Taigu at more than a couple points along the way!

        Gassho,
        Dosho

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        • Shohei
          Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 2854

          #5
          Re: Kesa O kesa

          ^^Dosho!! that is amazing progress! looks awesome!
          Gassho, Shohei!

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          • Eika
            Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 806

            #6
            Re: Kesa O kesa

            I'd be interested too, although I might not be able to start on one until Spring semester is over.


            Bill
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            • Juko
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 51

              #7
              Re: Kesa O kesa

              Originally posted by DontKnow
              I'd be interested too, although I might not be able to start on one until Spring semester is over.


              Bill
              I am in the same boat, after my winter/spring quarter, which starts tomorrow.

              Gassho, Juko
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              • Tb
                Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3186

                #8
                Re: Kesa O kesa

                Hi.

                Wonderful idea.
                We here (fugen and koki) would be delighted to be part of this.
                And if we start now, maybe we would have it finished for next year's jukai :roll: :wink:

                Mtfbwy
                Fugen & Koki
                Life is our temple and its all good practice
                Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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                • Tobiishi
                  Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 461

                  #9
                  Re: Kesa O kesa

                  me too! me too!
                  I'm actually pretty good with a sewing machine... I don't get to use it, do I?
                  It occurs to me that my attachment to this body is entirely arbitrary. All the evidence is subjective.

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                  • Taigu
                    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2710

                    #10
                    Re: Kesa O kesa

                    Thank you all for your warm answers.

                    Scott, what a brilliant work! But I have a question, how did you sew the vertical stripes together? Did you use the same method as for sewing the three pieces of each stripe? I hkind of wonder because I don t see the same pattern. You may send me another pic, if you wish.

                    Jundo, thank you so much for your support and great Dharma brotherhood.


                    gassho


                    Taigu

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                    • Dosho
                      Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 5784

                      #11
                      Re: Kesa O kesa

                      Thanks Taigu!

                      When I took the picture I'd just finished five of the stripes and I thought I'd see how everything looked when I laid them side by side. After many hours of working with each stripe individually it was nice to see them together, but none of them are stitched together quite yet.

                      Gassho,
                      Scott (Dosho)

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                      • Tb
                        Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3186

                        #12
                        Re: Kesa O kesa

                        Hi.

                        We had an question, will there be an possibility to include the ring on this one?
                        And whats the difference ringwise between the 5-model and the 7-model?

                        Mtfbwy
                        Fugen
                        Life is our temple and its all good practice
                        Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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                        • KellyRok
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1374

                          #13
                          Re: Kesa O kesa

                          Hello all,

                          I'm definitely onboard! I look forward to starting this new adventure with you all.

                          Gassho,
                          Kelly-Jinmei

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                          • Jinho

                            #14
                            Re: Kesa O kesa

                            Dearest Big Bear,

                            YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            (so what response were you expecting, you silly Bear!?)

                            gassho,
                            Jinho
                            sew, sew, sew.............

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                            • Taigu
                              Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2710

                              #15
                              Re: Kesa O kesa

                              Thank you all!!! Thank you Jinho and Jinmei !!!

                              Hi Fugen, it is not possible to include a ring for the seven stripes kesa. And to cut a long story short the five stripes rakusu is for travelling, working, zazen in hot summers, or just zazen. You may find a big five stripes too but the big seven stripes kesa is pretty much "standard". Monk and lay people wear it for zazen, it is as close as it can be to the original kesa of Shakyamuni made by Ananda ( the rakusu is a smaller version of this kesa). If you want to, you may read den e or kesa kudoku the two chapters of Shobogenzo that Dogen writes about the kesa, its significance, history and symbolism (Nishijima-Cross translation on line, volume 1). People may also wear a kesa of nine, eleven, thriteen, fifteen up to twenty fives stripes and beyond...Seven strips seems to me a task challenging enough for our patience and skill.
                              I hope this helps.

                              gassho

                              Taigu

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