Originally Posted by
HezB
Hi Jundo,
No, that's just what I said.
Kennett Roshi only made the comment about the Japanese recognising two different types of thought.
"Abide in sub-conscious thought" means to simply sit with arising sub-conscious thoughts if that happens to be what your sub-conscious is doing at the moment of practice. We do this rather than manipulating, chasing/ rejecting them for example.
Can't "stillness" be described as sub-conscious thought? Is "stillness" separate from sub-conscious 'movement' in practice?
As I am sitting here (not in Zazen at the moment) is my sub-conscious thinking? Isn't it always thinking?
I'm currently of the opinion that sub-conscious thought and stillness are not separate. That sub-conscious activity, and sub-conscious stillness, are really the same and should effectively be accepted and received thus in Zazen.
I am aware that "sub-conscious" is a relative value as we become more aware of our sub-conscious thoughts in Zazen, but I don't feel that this is dependant on discriminating between movement and stillness.
We should not abide in "deliberate thought", or thought that we cause to arise or remain of course, and we should just stop it if we find ourselves doing it as most instructions point out.
Regards,
Harry.