Well, ... Both of you is right. :lol:
I have an example:
If you only concern to see the leaf, you may not see the tree as a whole.
If you only concern to see the tree, you may not see the forest as a whole.
If you only concern to see the forest, you may not see the universe as a whole.
But...
The leaf can't be separated with the tree.
The tree can't be separated with the forest.
The forest can't be separated with the universe.
so...
seeing the leaf is seeing the universe, and seeing the universe is seeing the leaf and the tree.
we see the tree, the leaf, and the universe as one, as it is, just reality is self.
But, I think it's really difficult to express it into words. so, The best way is Just Sit...
Gassho, Shui Di.