Dogo and Zen-gen went to a house [where a funeral was being held] to show sympathy. Zen-gen hit the coffin and asked,
"Alive or dead?" Dogo replied, "I won't say alive, I won't say dead." Zen-gen
demanded, " Why won't you say?" Dogo repeated, "I won't say." On their way home,
Zen-gen cried, "Tell me right now teacher, alive or dead; if you don't tell me, I will hit
you." Dogo said, "You may hit me, but I won't say." Zen-gen hit him.
Later after Dogo died, Zen-gen went to Seki-so and told him the foregoing story. Seki-so
said, "I won't say alive, and I won't say dead." Zen-gen said, " Why won't you say?"
Seki-so repeated, "I won't say, I won't say." At these words Zen-gen came to awakening.