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Thread: April 4th-5th, 2014 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!

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    April 4th-5th, 2014 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!

    NOTE: VIDEO PART I UP THRU FIRST KINHIN, PART II THEREFROM

    THE READING [from David Loy] FOR THE TALK IS BELOW IN THIS THREAD.


    Dear All,

    Please 'sit-a-long' with our MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI, netcast LIVE 8am to noon Japan time Saturday morning (that is New York 7pm to 11pm, Los Angeles 4pm to 8pm (Friday night), London midnight to 4am and Paris 1am to 5am (early Saturday morning)) ...

    ... to be visible at the following link during those times and any time thereafter ...

    LIVE ZAZENKAI NETCAST at GOOGLE+ IS HERE:
    CLICK ON THE TAB ON LOWER RIGHT FOR 'FULL SCREEN




    PART II



    FOR THOSE NOT ALREADY MEMBERS OF THE CIRCLE WHO WISH TO JOIN TO SIT LIVE WITH A CAMERA, INSTRUCTIONS are posted AT THIS LINK. WE ARE NOW LIMITED TO 10 INDIVIDUALS WITH CAMERAS, BUT ANY NUMBER CAN WATCH LIVE 'ONE WAY' AND SIT-A-LONG VIA THE ABOVE SCREEN. IF JOINING WITH CAMERA, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS MUTED:

    The Sitting Schedule is as follows;

    00:00 - 00:50 CEREMONY (HEART SUTRA / SANDOKAI IN ENGLISH) & ZAZEN
    00:50 - 01:00 KINHIN
    01:00 - 01:30 ZAZEN
    01:30 - 01:50 KINHIN

    01:50 - 02:30 DHARMA TALK & ZAZEN
    02:30 - 02:40 KINHIN

    02:40 - 03:15 ZAZEN
    03:15 - 03:30 KINHIN
    03:30 - 04:00 METTA CHANT & ZAZEN, VERSE OF ATONEMENT, FOUR VOWS, & CLOSING



    Our Zazenkai consists of our chanting the 'Heart Sutra' and the 'Identity of Relative and Absolute (Sandokai)' in English (please download our Chant Book at the link below), some full floor prostrations (please follow along with me ... or a simple Gassho can be substituted if you wish), a little talk by me ... and we close with the 'Metta Chant', followed at the end with the 'Verse of Atonement' and 'The Four Vows'. Oh, and lots and lots of Zazen and walkin' Kinhin in between!

    Please download and print out the Chants we will recite at the following link (PDF):

    Chant Book (PDF)

    or

    Chant Book (SHORT VERSION HTML)

    I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU POSITION YOUR ZAFU ON THE FLOOR IN A PLACE WHERE YOU ARE NOT STARING DIRECTLY AT THE COMPUTER SCREEN, BUT CAN GLANCE OVER AND SEE THE SCREEN WHEN NECESSARY. YOUR ZAFU SHOULD ALSO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE COMPUTER SCREEN WHILE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE ZAFU FOR THE CEREMONIES, AND HAVE ROOM FOR BOWING AND KINHIN.

    ALSO, REMEMBER TO SET YOUR COMPUTER (& SCREEN SAVER) SO THAT IT DOES NOT SHUT OFF DURING THE 4 HOURS.


    I hope you will join us ... an open Zafu is waiting. When we drop all thought of 'here' 'there' 'now' 'then' ... we are sitting all together!


    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 04-05-2014 at 12:40 AM.
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    Wonderful Jundo ... I look forward to sitting. =)

    Gassho
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    Treeleaf Unsui/Engineer Kyonin's Avatar
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    I'll be there

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    I'll be here.

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    With your help and guidance from Jundo & Taigu
    I am learning, but please take what I say with a
    grain of salt, especially in matters of the Dharma.

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    I will be there.

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    Same here

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    I'll be there, at least for part of the time.
    Shinzan

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    OUR READING FOR TODAY'S ZAZENKAI:

    I was thinking of basing today's talk on some "Zen classic" from 800 or 1000 years ago. But I believe that certain books by living, modern Buddhist authors might someday be seen as "living classics" which are bringing our old Teachings up to date for modern times. I recently recommended David Loy's "Money Sex War Karma: Notes For A Buddhist Revolution" as such a book ...

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...rma-Living-Zen

    ... and will use some passages from it as the basis for today's talk.

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    [From Pages 19-23]

    [I have a] feeling that there is something missing or lacking in my life. What is
    it that’s lacking? How I understand that depends upon the kind of
    person I am and the kind of society I live in. The sense that something
    is wrong with me is too vague, too amorphous. It needs to be given
    more specific form if I’m to be able to do something about it, and
    that form usually depends upon how I’ve been raised. In modern
    developed (or “economized”) societies such as the United States, I
    am likely to understand my lack as not having enough money—
    regardless of how much money I already have. Money is important
    to us not only because we can buy anything with it, but also because
    it has become a kind of collective reality symbol. The more money
    you get, the more real you become! That’s the way we tend to think,
    anyway.(When a wealthy person arrives somewhere his or her presence
    is acknowledged much more than the arrival of a “nobody.”)
    Because money doesn’t really end dukkha—it can’t fill up the bottomless
    hole at one’s core—this way of thinking often becomes a
    trap.You’re a multi-millionaire but still feel like something is wrong
    with your life? Obviously you don’t have enough money yet.

    Another example is fame. ... If you think that fame is what will make you real,
    you can never be famous enough.The same is true of power. ...


    Fundamentally, Buddhism is about awakening,
    which means realizing something about the constructedness
    of the sense of self and the nothing at its core. … Usually
    that void at our core is so uncomfortable that we try to evade it, by
    identifying with something else that might give us stability and security.
    Another way to say it is that we keep trying to fill up that hole,
    yet it’s a bottomless pit. Nothing that we can ever grasp or achieve
    can end our sense of lack.

    So what happens when we don’t run away from that hole at our
    core? That’s what we’re doing when we meditate: we are “letting
    go” of all the physical and mental activity that distracts us from our
    emptiness. Instead,we just sit with it and as it. It’s not that easy to do,
    because the hole gives us such a feeling of insecurity, ungroundedness,
    unreality. Meditation is uncomfortable, especially at the beginning,
    because in our daily lives we are used to taking evasive action.
    So we tend to take evasive action when we meditate too: we fantasize,
    make plans, feel sorry for ourselves…

    But if I can learn to not run away, to stay with those uncomfortable
    feelings, to become friendly with them, then something can
    happen to that core—and to me, insofar as that hole is what “I” really
    am.The curious thing about my emptiness is that it is not really a
    problem.The problem is that we think it’s a problem. Our ways of
    trying to escape it make it into a problem.

    Some Buddhist sutras talk about paravritti, a “turning around” that
    transforms the festering hole at my core into a life-healing flow which
    springs up spontaneously from I-know-not-where. Instead of being
    experienced as a sense of lack, the empty core becomes a place where
    there is now awareness of something other than, more than,my usual
    sense of self. I can never grasp that “more than,” I can never understand
    what it is—and I do not need to, because “I” am an expression
    of it. My role is to become a better manifestation of it, with less interference
    from the delusion of ego-self. So our emptiness has two sides:
    the negative, problematic aspect is a sense of lack.The other aspect is
    being in touch with, and manifesting, something greater than my
    sense of self—that is, something more than I usually understand
    myself to be.The original Buddhist term usually translated as emptiness
    (Pali shunnata; Sanskrit shunyata) … [but] a more accurate translation of
    shunyata would be: emptiness/fullness,which describes quite well the
    experience of our own empty core,both the problem and the solution.

    … The point isn’t to get rid of the self: that’s not possible, for there
    never has been a self. Nor do we want
    to get rid of the sense of self: that would be a rather unpleasant type
    of mental retardation. Rather, what we work toward is a more permeable,
    less dualistic sense of self, which is more aware of, and more
    comfortable with, its empty constructedness.

    http://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/defa...%20Preview.pdf
    Last edited by Jundo; 04-04-2014 at 04:26 PM.
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    With the time change it will be harder for me to be there. I will try to make it to the end part.

    Gassho,
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    I will not be home in time for the start time this week. Will either join in live later or sit offline. Deep bows to all who sit.
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    Sit with you all in zen time, Sunday AM Clark Time.
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    Will try to be there for the first 1.5 hours or so.
    If not, will sit with recording at the weekend.

    I have heard/read a lot of great stuff from David Loy in the last six months...
    May I use the opportunity to - once again - recommend the talk he held at last year's Buddhist Geeks conference? Truly fantastic if you have the chance to watch it.

    Gassho,

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    no thing needs to be added

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    I can't get in, anyone else have the same issue?

    Gassho,
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    Sorry, had to bow out - too tired tonight...
    Will sit the rest of this zazenkai at the weekend.

    Gassho,

    Daitetsu
    no thing needs to be added

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    I have to restart the zazenkai
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jundo View Post
    I have to restart the zazenkai
    Still can't get in, or is it done for now?

    Gassho,
    Joyo

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    Got booted out and can't get in

    I'll just sit.

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    Thank you Jundo. Thanks to all who sat live or who will sit later.

    Gassho,
    Juki
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    Wonderful wholeness and dharma talk ... thank you Jundo and everyone. Have a great weekend and enjoy the Cherry Blossoms where you are. =)

    Gassho
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    As a trainee priest, please take any commentary by me on matters of the Dharma with a pinch of salt.

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    Thanks everyone for a nice zazenkai, even tho google+ wouldn't present the "join" button when there were spaces available.
    Ah, the wonders of the internet.
    Here we have plum blossoms, Jundo.

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    Thank you for such a great Zazenkai, enjoy your weekend everyone
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    Thank you guys.

    I couldn't get back in, but I sat with you.

    Have a great weekend.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
    Please remember I am only a priest in training. I could be wrong in everything I say. Slap me if needed.

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    Thanks everyone.

    Gassho,
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    With your help and guidance from Jundo & Taigu
    I am learning, but please take what I say with a
    grain of salt, especially in matters of the Dharma.

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    Thanks to all.



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    Will join you all later
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    Thank you everyone, so appreciate this zazenkai. Jundo, your talk was so useful and helpful in many ways. Today I sit with the hole not being filled with the ways that I didn't even realize I was doing. Birds are perched on the branch and it just is, without distractions.

    I so appreciate Treeleaf and all who practice here.

    Gassho,
    Joyo

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    Thank you everyone,
    sat this on saturday, and I agree so much, wonderful talk, seems you know me well, Jundo
    Gassho
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    Thank you, Jundo and everyone.

    Sitting in the whole hole, whole.

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    Beautiful Zazenkai and talk. Thank you!

    Gassho
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    Thank you everyone!

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    Came here midweek, as I am also "revving up" for Holy Week and some non-stop liturgical high jinks.

    It's been a longer (seeming) Lent than usual probably due to the lingering Winter in the Midwest, at least until this past week or so...seemed like a really long Ango.

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