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    Treeleaf is worthless

    Sometimes I'm not sure why I come here. There is nothing to be gained by coming here. Same stories. Different character. Dogen this, Dogen that. Buddha this, Buddha that. Blah, blah, blah. What's the point? What's the answer? What's the question?

    On more than one occasion I have gotten rid of Tapatalk on my iPhone and iPad and deleted the bookmark for Treeleaf on my web browser saying to myself "I'm not coming back to this place. There is nothing here for me."

    Zen is pointless. Zen teachers are pointless. Treeleaf is pointless. Buddha is pointless. A complete waste of time. It has taken me two and a half years of sitting and countless books to realize this. My only teacher is my Zafu.

    Now, with a clean slate, I'm ready to learn. Buddha is my teacher, Dogen is my teacher, the teachers at Treeleaf are my teachers, you are my teacher, the moon, trees, rocks, cats and rats are my teachers. I seek Dharma from all of you.

    Gassho, John

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    Treeleaf Unsui/Engineer Kyonin's Avatar
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    I don't seek anything from you.

    Still you are a good teacher.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
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    and




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    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest Taigu's Avatar
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    Excellent John, truly humbling. I am happy you dropped a few heavy bags filled with expectations and now you are ready to pick up...the whole universe!

    Gassho

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    Senior Member Myosha's Avatar
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    From one beginner to a beginner. . .


    Gassho,
    Edward
    Practice with humility, respect all beings, avoid attachments, give rise to praj˝a from your own awareness, put an end to delusions - Hui-neng

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    Ah you learn well Grasshopper. Thank you for this teaching John.

    Gassho
    Shingen
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    As a trainee priest, please take any commentary by me on matters of the Dharma with a pinch of salt.

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    Absolutely the the best, most worthless, pointless thing ever said to me and Taigu since we opened the doors on this place! Thank you!


    Yes! Absolutely worthless, pointless and a total waste of time! Nine bows. Now we can finally get somewhere!


    I keep trying to hint as much, but folks keep wanting more. Many go elsewhere looking for it.


    WHAT's NEXT!?!
    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...-s-NEXT%21-%21

    The BEST Zen is SO DISAPPOINTING!
    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...SAPPOINTING%21


    Nine Bows. Jundo
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    [QUOTEZen student to zen teacher: "My mediation is awful I can't concentrate it is useless worthless I might as well leave the monastry now right away,"Zen teacher: " It will pass."
    Time passes
    Zen student to zen teacher: "My meditation is fabulous, satori, Kensho, Enlightenment! Wonderful!"
    Zen teacher: " It will pass."
    Time passes][/QUOTE]

    Gassho

    David

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    Senior Member Genshin's Avatar
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    Thank you John, Jundo.

    Gassho
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    Quote Originally Posted by John C. View Post
    Zen is pointless. Zen teachers are pointless. Treeleaf is pointless. Buddha is pointless. Gassho, John
    Pointlessness is pointless. Or is it?

    Gassho,

    William
    Last edited by Juki; 06-21-2013 at 05:29 PM.

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    speaking of that... on the way to work I pass a dentist's office that always has a different quote of the week on their marquee or sign. This weeks says "pencils with broken tips are pointless." hahaahah

    Gassho,

    Risho

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    Thank you for the reminder. Can family members, who think I'm insane for converting to Buddhism, be my teacher?? I guess they can be.

    Gassho,
    Treena

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    Senior Member Nengyo's Avatar
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    Damn it, I knew I should have waited to get that full back treeleaf zendo tattoo.
    Try not to be a jerk-- one of the Buddhas

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    Thank you John!
    Its all worthless, and precious when we let go of the need to value it

    Gassho

    Shohei

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    Senior Member Heisoku's Avatar
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    No it isn't!
    Gassho.

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    Senior Member Myosha's Avatar
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    Yes it isn't.

    Gassho,
    Edward

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    Senior Member Heisoku's Avatar
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    No, it is.... : )
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    It's a definite maybe.
    Gassho

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    Treeleaf is WHOLLY Worthless ... Whorthy WHOLEless ...
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Senior Member Heisoku's Avatar
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    I still Wholly enjoy Treeleaf though... ; ) _/\_
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    yup
    The more I learn, The less I know.

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    Is that so?

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    Senior Member Joyo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by catfish View Post
    Damn it, I knew I should have waited to get that full back treeleaf zendo tattoo.
    lol!! Make sure you post a picture of it so the rest of us can see!

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    "When your tea cup is empty..."

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    thank you for this reminder.

    Gassho, Dojin.
    I gained nothing at all from supreme enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called supreme enlightenment
    - the Buddha

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