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Thread: May 3rd/4th, 2013 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!

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    May 3rd/4th, 2013 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!

    NOTE: Our Dharma Talk this time will dive into the opening passages of the Genjo Koan (text below in this thread) ...

    Please 'sit-a-long' with our MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI, netcast LIVE 8am to noon Japan time Saturday morning (that is New York 7pm to 11pm, Los Angeles 4pm to 8pm (Friday night), London midnight to 4am and Paris 1am to 5am (early Saturday morning)) ... and visible at the following link during those times ...

    ... to be visible at the following link during those times and any time thereafter ...

    LIVE ZAZENKAI NETCAST at GOOGLE+ IS HERE:
    CLICK ON THE TAB ON LOWER RIGHT FOR 'FULL SCREEN




    FOR THOSE NOT ALREADY MEMBERS OF THE CIRCLE WHO WISH TO JOIN TO SIT LIVE WITH A CAMERA, INSTRUCTIONS are posted AT THIS LINK. WE ARE NOW LIMITED TO 10 INDIVIDUALS WITH CAMERAS, BUT ANY NUMBER CAN WATCH LIVE 'ONE WAY' AND SIT-A-LONG VIA THE ABOVE SCREEN. IF JOINING WITH CAMERA, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS MUTED:

    The Sitting Schedule is as follows;

    00:00 - 00:50 CEREMONY (HEART SUTRA / SANDOKAI IN ENGLISH) & ZAZEN
    00:50 - 01:00 KINHIN
    01:00 - 01:30 ZAZEN
    01:30 - 01:50 KINHIN

    01:50 - 02:30 DHARMA TALK & ZAZEN
    02:30 - 02:40 KINHIN

    02:40 - 03:15 ZAZEN
    03:15 - 03:30 KINHIN
    03:30 - 04:00 METTA CHANT & ZAZEN, VERSE OF ATONEMENT, FOUR VOWS, & CLOSING


    Our Zazenkai consists of our chanting the 'Heart Sutra' and the 'Identity of Relative and Absolute (Sandokai)' in English (please download our Chant Book at the link below), some full floor prostrations (please follow along with me ... or a simple Gassho can be substituted if you wish), a little talk by me ... and we close with the 'Metta Chant', followed at the end with the 'Verse of Atonement' and 'The Four Vows'. Oh, and lots and lots of Zazen and walkin' Kinhin in between!

    Please download and print out the Chants we will recite at the following link (PDF):

    Chant Book (PDF)

    or

    Chant Book (SHORT VERSION HTML)

    I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU POSITION YOUR ZAFU ON THE FLOOR IN A PLACE WHERE YOU ARE NOT STARING DIRECTLY AT THE COMPUTER SCREEN, BUT CAN GLANCE OVER AND SEE THE SCREEN WHEN NECESSARY. YOUR ZAFU SHOULD ALSO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE COMPUTER SCREEN WHILE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE ZAFU FOR THE CEREMONIES, AND HAVE ROOM FOR BOWING AND KINHIN.

    ALSO, REMEMBER TO SET YOUR COMPUTER (& SCREEN SAVER) SO THAT IT DOES NOT SHUT OFF DURING THE 4 HOURS.


    I hope you will join us ... an open Zafu is waiting. When we drop all thought of 'here' 'there' 'now' 'then' ... we are sitting all together!
    Last edited by Jundo; 05-03-2013 at 10:46 PM.
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    I will be there live.

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    I'll be there.

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    I'll be there live!

    Gassho,

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    I will be there as well.

    Gassho,
    William

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    We will be sitting on Sunday morning 8:30 to 12:30 EST (US and Canada) if anyone would care to join us for the resit.

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    hello guys,

    I'll be sitting the Zazenkai in Sunday. Thank you all for your practise! Keep up the great work.

    Gassho,

    Hans Chudo Mongen
    Chudo Mongen, Ordained Novice Priest-in-Training

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    As with the last monthly Zazenkai, I won't be able to attend live, but will surely find a day to sit with the recording.

    Gassho,

    Timo
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    I will try to join you in the Dharma Talk, finish with you and then sit the first two hours rigth after that, kind of a backwards Zazenkai

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    P.S. Yup, I know, my English sucks

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    I know there's mention of watching/participating without being on the main screen during the event. But I haven't used google+ before for a hangout. Is that an option when I click the link? Or can I only watch the video after the fact? I want to participate live, but as this is my first, I honestly admit I would prefer to not be live on the screen. Sorry if this was covered elsewhere.

    Gassho,
    Mc.

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    Hi, Mc: my understanding is that only the first ten people to join the hangout can be seen live on screen. One of those ten is obviously, Jundo. So, if you join in after nine others, you will see/hear the Zazenkai but not be seen. Some weeks, there are less than ten of us, however, so you would probably be seen in that event. I may be wrong, and Kyonin is one of our Engineers, so he can probably advise you better than I can.

    Gassho,
    William

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    Hi,

    Also, further instructions for getting set up with Google+ are here.

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...E-for-Zazenkai

    However, joining "one way" by simply clicking on the screen (which will appear in the top post a few minutes before the Zazenkai starts) is fine, and we can still sit together and "see each other" in our hearts.

    Gassho, J
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    For our talk today, let's dive into the opening passages of the Genjo Koan ...

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    As all things are buddha-dharma, there is delusion and realization, practice, and birth and death, and there are buddhas and sentient beings.

    As the myriad things are without an abiding self, there is no delusion, no realization, no buddha, no sentient being, no birth and death.

    The buddha way is, basically, leaping clear of the many of the one; thus there are birth and death, delusion and realization, sentient beings and buddhas.

    Yet in attachment blossoms fall, and in aversion weeds spread.

    To carry yourself forward and experience myriad things is delusion. That myriad things come forth and experience themselves is awakening.

    Those who have great realization of delusion are buddhas; those who are greatly deluded about realization are sentient beings. Further, there are those who continue realizing beyond realization, who are in delusion throughout delusion.

    When buddhas are truly buddhas they do not necessarily notice that they are buddhas. However, they are actualized buddhas, who go on actualizing buddhas.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    Thank you Jundo and William. This is my first longer zazenkai. I've also never sat with others live, so I'm more than a little insecure, ha. But I will engage with my sincerest effort. I very much appreciate the responses. And I look forward to sitting with you.

    Gassho,
    Mc.

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    I'll sit over the bank holiday weekend. I would love to sit live but it's just to early in the morning for me.

    Thanks & Gassho,
    Matt

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    Have a good sit tonight/tomorrow. Like Hans, I will be joining in on Sunday.

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    I joined in late, and then had many technical difficulties trying to get my camera to work. Still sitting with you guys now, may have to leave early. I enjoyed the question and answer portion. Excellent idea.

    Now returning to sitting.
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    Dear all,
    I apologize to all of you for missing the start of the Zazenkai. I am really embarrassed to miss my Doan commitment. I showed up an hour late, neglecting to note that the four hour Zazenkai starts an hour earlier. I'm really sorry - I failed to support you in your practice tonight. And being Doan is just plain fun - I enjoy it.

    I also apologize to you Jundo, I told you I'd be there.

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    All sitters:
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    Thank you Jundo and everyone who sat ... have a great weekend.

    No worries Yugen and Amelia ... you were are always there with us.

    Gassho
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    Thank you, Jundo for the wonderful talk on the Genjo Koan. Thanks to all who sat and who will sit later. And, Yugen, don't beat yourself up. Gassho, William

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    Yugen, the same thing happened to me, and then I had computer problems as well and didn't realize I was 1 hour and 15 minutes late by the time I joined. Of course I am not so visible as you are as you are serving as Doan but such things are human and no need for embarrassment. Thank you for your commitment.

    Gassho,
    Arnold

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    Hi,

    I could not be online but it is very nice to know that it is possible to follow the Zazenkai recorded, I hope to do it tomorrow morning.

    Gassho,

    Mauricio
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    If it rains, let it rain, if the wind blows, let it blow.
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    Thanks everyone.

    Gassho,
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    With your help and guidance from Jundo & Taigu
    I am learning, but please take what I say with a
    grain of salt, especially in matters of the Dharma.

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    Thank you all who sat/will sit.

    Have a wonderful weekend!

    Gassho,

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    Please remember I am only a priest in training. I could be wrong in everything I say. Slap me if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugen View Post
    I apologize to all of you for missing the start of the Zazenkai. I am really embarrassed to miss my Doan commitment. I showed up an hour late, neglecting to note that the four hour Zazenkai starts an hour earlier. I'm really sorry - I failed to support you in your practice tonight. And being Doan is just plain fun - I enjoy it.

    I also apologize to you Jundo, I told you I'd be there.
    What are you talking about, brother? Your are always here!

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
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    And thanks to Dosho for stepping in and reciting the Heart Sutra for us.

    Gassho,
    William

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    Gassho all. Will be sitting tomorrow.
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    Thank you Jundo, wonderful talk,
    thank you everyone, Gassho
    Myoku

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    Thank you everyone that sat and will sit.
    Enjoyed listening to the talk and Q&A session.

    Gassho,
    Matt

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    Beautiful! I had lot of pain sitting today but Jundo's words on the Genjokoan really helped with that (I love Genjokoan anyway). It felt like if I pushed the pain away I was pushing away Buddha so Buddha and I sat with the pain. Would it be too much to ask for a (short) talk every week, or maybe alternate weeks? Would be lovely to have one of the Genjokoan commentaries as the book club book too.

    Thank you for the recitations, Dosho, and for everyone for sitting.

    Gassho
    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karasu View Post
    Would it be too much to ask for a (short) talk every week, or maybe alternate weeks?
    Oh, well, like people don't hear enough from me around here already!

    Well, I suppose we will have some more of the Genjo Koan next monthly Zazenkai, plus some talks by Taigu and me now and then on other subjects, as always.

    Here is Taigu's great series on the Genjo ... that should keep you busy!

    http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/forum...-Koan-by-Taigu

    Gassho, Jundo
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    I did not complete this zazenkai but I thank you for the talk on Genjo Koan Jundo and gassho to every one sitting and Q&A-ing.
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    Thank you
    Gassho, Kaishin
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    Thank you for the Genjokoan links, Jundo.

    You are right, though, you give enough already without needing to do additional talks.


    Gassho
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    Thanks all. Q and A worked well, I thought.
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    Sitting this right now. Gassho, Matt J

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    Thank you all who sat and will sit. I truly enjoyed the talk and Q&A. I look forward to next months talk and explanation of the moon koan

    gassho, Shokai
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    Now I managed to sit the 4 hours, too.
    Thank you to all for sitting together, for the questions and to Jundo for the Dharma talk.

    Gassho,
    Shinka

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