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    if not zazen, then what?

    What is it if it "is not zazen"? I work as a teacher and sometimes, in between classes, I'll just sit at my desk (on a chair) and just do what we all do when doing zazen. Is this just mindfulness practice? Or if I am watching a game, or drinking a beer, and know "this is what I am doing"? Is this akin to Jundo's Insta-Sittings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bayamo View Post
    What is it if it "is not zazen"? I work as a teacher and sometimes, in between classes, I'll just sit at my desk (on a chair) and just do what we all do when doing zazen. Is this just mindfulness practice? Or if I am watching a game, or drinking a beer, and know "this is what I am doing"? Is this akin to Jundo's Insta-Sittings?

    Only sitting on the cushion facing a wall is sitting. Dropping all goals, judgments, thought of other place in need of being or thing in need of doing in all time and space (and timeless spaceless too). Shikantaza. Only sitting on the cushion is Shikantaza is Zazen.

    That said, when rising from the cushion, much of life can be Shikantaza if conducted the same way. Sitting on a chair between classes ... if dropping all goals, judgments, thought of other place in need of being or thing in need of doing in all time and space (and timeless spaceless too). Shikantaza.

    Drinking tea and watching a sunrise ... if dropping all goals, judgments, thought of other place in need of being or thing in need of doing in all time and space (and timeless spaceless too). Shikantaza.

    So maybe also drinking a beer and watching a game ... if dropping all goals, judgments, thought of other place in need of being or thing in all time and space (and timeless spaceless too). Shikantaza.

    The main pointless point?

    Well, dropping all goals, judgments, thought of other place in need of being or thing in need of doing in all time and space (and timeless spaceless too) is Shikantaza.

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    Jundo your K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) approach to practise is refreshing and seems to speak to me directly and/or indirectly. Thank you for teaching in such a way that even a simpleton like myself can gain an understanding.
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    thanks Jundo!
    Oh, yeah. If I didn't have inner peace, I'd go completely psycho on all you guys all the time.
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    Profound, yet simple and true. Thank you Jundo.

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    I never tire of hearing that simple teaching. Uchiyama roshi defines Dogen Zenji's Genjokoan phrase as "the ordinary profundity of the present moment becoming the present moment." Your shikantaza is this.
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    Ed B
    "Know that the practice of zazen is the complete path of buddha-dharma and nothing can be compared to it....it is not the practice of one or two buddhas but all the buddha ancestors practice this way."
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    Its brilliant and clear but how many times I muddle it up, forget, miss the point and come back to this teaching.

    Thank you for this

    Gassho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shohei View Post
    Its brilliant and clear but how many times I muddle it up, forget, miss the point and come back to this teaching.

    Thank you for this

    Gassho
    Shohei
    I hear ya buddy

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