http://www.partiallyexaminedlife.com...ussion-of-zen/
Neat summary of Dogen's 'intention' in his teaching here.
There are some interesting pod casts on this site.
Gassho
Willow
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http://www.partiallyexaminedlife.com...ussion-of-zen/
Neat summary of Dogen's 'intention' in his teaching here.
There are some interesting pod casts on this site.
Gassho
Willow
Interesting piece. Thank you, Willow!
Gassho
Andy
Thank you Willow. :)
Gassho
Shingen
I confess to reading twice and not getting much at all. What? [scared] The summarizing of Dogen in a few closing sentences seems narrow at best, and more than a little silly. What is the meaning of this? I need an explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by willow
The best treatments of Dogen's approach to Buddhist philosophy and modus operandi are the two books by the great Dogenologist Dr. Kim (He wrote them a few years apart, and changed interpretation slightly over the years just a drop ) ... Each can be rather heavy going at points, but worth it for serious Dogenites.Quote:
Rather than the un-involved, detached and Utopian conception of Zen perhaps Dōgen is actually teaching the radical philosophy of total historical and social contingency. There is no self, no suchness, nothing to practice without a body that practices, a place of practice, a world that allows for practice and the historical Buddha, now a collection of symbols and only symbols.
http://www.amazon.com/Eihei-Dogen-My...1161011&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Dogen-Meditati...d_bxgy_b_img_b
Next, I would put Taigen's book and Okumura Roshi's book, discussed here ...
http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showt...-to-Read-Dogen
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Gassho, J
Hello Willow,
thanks for the link. I am currently really enjoying the Upaya Norman Fisher talks (in my view both great for new beginners and old beginners :) ) that were linked to in another recent thread:
https://www.upaya.org/dharma/beyond-...s-all-8-parts/
It has to be said that he has a great voice too!
Gassho,
Hans Chudo Mongen
Hi Jundo - yes, I have to agree - on re-reading the last bit - it isn't very clear. But I think what he means by 'uninvolved' is not able to be talked about. But this isn't a view he agrees with - he sees that as a shallow view of Zen. He's referring back to what he says earlier about the misunderstanding of Zen as detached, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jundo
He makes a couple of valid points - that all that we name (the process of signification) is ultimately arbitrary - and that this naming ( or intellectual understanding - which he also equates with historical symbols) is at a distance (outside the self).
I think he wants to argue that Dogen's teaching transcends the above by clearly situating the body/mind within a total 'social and historical contingency' I think I might leave a comment on the blog asking for some clarification.
A blog post is of course no substitute for the books/talks mentioned (thank you for links, and Hans also) .
However, it caught my attention ... and has shown me up as a sucker for overblown philosophy :)
Gassho
Willow