Originally Posted by
Enkyo
A word of advice for the overactive minds (like me): As we know body and mind are not two. Try doing some physical work when thoughts you can’t shake off bother you. Find something you would consider boring and then do it with your full attention as slowly as possible! Take the focus from the inside to the reality of the outside world. A dirty toilet needs no explanation, identification or reasoning. Never mind Buddha or no Buddha, coins, mouths or whatever things that may or may not be two sided. No Dogen, Hui Neng or even Jundo and Taigu! It all won’t get any cleaner by thinking, so let's get busy with a zen attitude! No mind, just doing only that. Really get sweating and then sit zazen. Works for me anyway! :encouragement: