If only to add a counter-point I admit that I'm a complete teetotaler when it comes to the precept. In my own, unenlightened perception even a little
I agree Kokuu ... Wonderful stuff. =)
Life is change.
Let's see how things develop.
I am thankful for all the teachings here and wish Taigu all the best with his new endeavour.
Friday evenight...long week of work is over...sitting on the porch....drinking a glass of red wine with my wife...watching sunset...talking and laughing