mhoke46375 wrote:I have a mild case of Obsessive compulsive disorder so counting breaths and following the inhale and exhale just did not work. Each breath each count had to be perfect. I found a school, the White Wind Zen Community that teaches the "opening around" method. oversimplifying, the breath is only a touchstone. Te feeling at the diaphragm and tandan is used as the beginning point for simultaneity of experience. Try to feel experience everything at once. I liken it to the view needed to drive a car.
The teaching includes as total subtraction as possible form the experience. In other words, white wall and Posture are all thats needed.
I sit in a chair because of knee problems, somedays my math, the subtraction, and the opening around result in simultaneity. Other days, the monkeys win.
I have several questions:
What's the view on sitting outdoors?
If I'm opening around the thoughts as they arise, do I fight the OCD (my usually approach to break its grip) or do i open around it?
what's the view on getting up in the middle of a 30 minute round to walk 10 minutes of kinhin to refocus and let the Obsession with moving pass?
Generally, our Way of Shikantaza Zazen is about "just sitting" with whatever is, just how it is. As in life-in-general, not every moment is peaches and cream, fun and games. So, it is wonderful Practice for us to sit with discomforts, pain, annoyances. We drop all thought of the words "discomfort", "pain", "annoyance", "like" "dislike" "good" "bad" ... and just sit with what is.
On the other hand, the Buddha's way was never one of masochism or asceticism, complete denial of the body. In fact, ours is the Middle Way, the path of moderation in all things. Furthermore, we do not harm the body.
Jronin wrote:Hi everyone!
I'm finally all hooked up after Jundo patiently helped me out with nagging registration issues.
Not much to say about myself without sounding like an autobiography. I'm married with a 15 month old son that keeps us both very busy. I'm a Chief in the Coast Guard. I've been into martial arts (Shorin-Ryu Karate specifically) since 1989 and teach karate at my own dojo here in Seattle. I think it was originally martial arts that got me interested in eastern religions and spirituality, which led to my own spiritual journey/searching for many years. Over those years from about 1991-2004 I had tasted everything from the Tao, Toltec traditions and Vedanta to modern non-traditional spiritualists such as Allan Watts, H.W.L. Poonja and even Echhart Tolle. I had dabbled in buddhism as well, but it wasn't until just a few years ago that I had really narrowed my focus to Zen Buddhism and focused my meditation on Shikentaza, rather than a lot of other "methods", which look now more like gimmicks or techniques. It took me a long time to finally start to get away from all the "techniques" of meditation and realize the significance of "just sitting". Now I'm starting to realize how much my mental cup has been overflowing. My mind loves the idea of buddhism and the idea of zen and meditation, but I think that's been one of my biggest hindrances. It's a double edged sword, because without the intellectual interest, I never would have come to this point, but I know that mind can only take me to the edge of the pond. I have to leave "mind" in a nice safe spot in the grass before I go diving in.
Thanks for listening/reading, I'll see you in the forum!
Jaana wrote:Hello, everyone;
My name is Jaana and I'm from Finland. I've been interested in meditation for a couple of years and am now trying to establish a regular practice of sitting. I found Treeleaf when I was searching for zazen timers, and the "just sitting" approach appeals to me, so I decided to join.
(I'll put a photo to my profile once I'm next on the computer where I have one.)
J
disastermouse wrote:Ah yes...everyone seems to get here via the 'Zen Timers Search'.
Jaana wrote:disastermouse wrote:Ah yes...everyone seems to get here via the 'Zen Timers Search'.
What can I say? A beginner needs a timer, and alarm clocks and kitchen timers tend to be obnoxious rather than peaceful. Yours (ours?) are very nice, and of course once you start using the timer you poke around a little bit more. Then it's easy to stay when there's so much quality, no-nonsense information about.
Nathan_Anderson wrote:I've been gone for alittle while. So let me re-introduce myself. My name is Nathan Anderson. I'm currently serving in the US Army.
Excited to be back on Treeleaf.
seanandrews wrote:... looking to enhance my studies with the hope of someday becoming an ordained Buddhist teacher and eventually receiving dharma transmission. ...
Fugen wrote:Hi.
And if there is anything, don't hesitate to ask!
Mtfbwy
Fugen
AtomicSpud wrote:Any thoughts on letting go of the breath after years of only focusing on it?
Thanks,
Perry
Quixulous wrote:I've noticed these forums, even with the occasional qualm that appears, are much more conducive to learning (and even simply interacting), than other online forums I've seen, as the internet often serves one's ego more often than the community's collective benefit.
With love,
Austin
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