Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Treeleaf 'ANGO' (The 100 days) -- 2009 --

by **Kevin** on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:24 pm

Thank you, Jundo, for this opportunity. I look forward to participating.

Gassho,
Kevin

by **Eika** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:25 am

Count me in . . .

Gassho,
Bill

by **kfrance0** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:26 am

Sounds like an great experience! Count me in as well.

Kevin (the other Kevin) :-)

by **Jundo** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:32 am

kfrance0 wrote:Kevin (the other Kevin)

We are -all- the other Kevin.

by **Shonin** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:14 am

Is the Jukai study starting at the same time?

by **Jundo** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:43 am

ZenDave wrote:Is the Jukai study starting at the same time?

The Jukai study and sewing will probably start about early-mid September. That will give us a chance to settle into Ango.

Rakusu sewers may wish to start gathering materials and supplies (that's Rev. Taigu's jurisdiction

) But I might suggest that Rakusu sewers review generally last years' Sewing thread before that time ...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1152

Also, there were some questions from a couple of folks about just what is "Dana" and what is "Samu" ... and we'll get into that. No worries!

by **rculver** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:04 am

Sounds good to me! (The only problem I may have is the 2 day Rohatsu retreat because of work commitments from mid November to early January)

I'm looking forward to it!

Ron

by **Jundo** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:08 am

rculver wrote:Sounds good to me! (The only problem I may have is the 2 day Rohatsu retreat because of work commitments from mid November to early January)

I'm looking forward to it!

Ron

Hi Ron,

I am very flexible on when the Rohatsu Retreat gets sat ... so long as it eventually gets sat, and as promptly as your schedule will allow.

In fact, one might even perhaps instead sit last year's Rohatsu Retreat again ... earlier than November (how's that for some sentence structure ... the way we think about time-&-place here at Treeleaf!) :shock:

Gassho, J

by **chugai** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:27 am

Two things -- + If technically possible, commit to meet with Jundo or Taigu by Skype video at least once per month during the Ango.

What does it take to be technically possible?

+ If simultaneously studying for Jukai, complete and participate in each of the readings and discussions each week regarding the individual Precepts, as well as complete Rakusu sewing.

I have a completed Rakusu that I would like to use. Would I need sew another?

by **chugai** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:30 am

OK --- I found out abot Skype --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH80vs8DweU

So question two is now question one and there are no two questions but one question only.

chugai wrote:Two things -- + If technically possible, commit to meet with Jundo or Taigu by Skype video at least once per month during the Ango.

What does it take to be technically possible?

+ If simultaneously studying for Jukai, complete and participate in each of the readings and discussions each week regarding the individual Precepts, as well as complete Rakusu sewing.

I have a completed Rakusu that I would like to use. Would I need sew another?

by **Fugen** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:28 am

Hi.

Hey, does this mean that "fridaytea" is on the menu again?
Maybe even with both OJ & OT?

Mtfbwy
Fugen

by **Hans** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:00 am

Hello!

Though I am looking forward to the Ango, I will be in the middle of moving to a new house in September (which means I might have a few days without internet). Other than that, I am all set and ready to go.

Gassho,

Mongen

by **Shinkai** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:29 pm

Add me to the scroll, please.

by **Tobiishi** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:39 pm

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...

gassho
tobiishi

by **Myoshin** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:46 pm

Tobiishi wrote:I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...

Ditto.

This sounds really cool, so I will do my best.

Gassho,
Kyle

by **Jinyu** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:12 pm

Fot the moment, I'm still working hard for the faculty but I'll have my last test the 26!
So, Please count me in!

Gassho,
Luis

by **Shohei** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:38 pm

Hi!
Im in

Gassho
Shohei

by **KellyRok** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:42 pm

Hello Jundo and all,

I'm in as well and so much looking forward to it!

_/\_

Gassho,

Jinmei

by **rculver** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:01 pm

Jundo wrote:
I am very flexible on when the Rohatsu Retreat gets sat ... so long as it eventually gets sat, and as promptly as your schedule will allow.

In fact, one might even perhaps instead sit last year's Rohatsu Retreat again ... earlier than November (how's that for some sentence structure ... the way we think about time-&-place here at Treeleaf!)

Gassho, J

That might be doable.

Thanks,

Ron

by **Dosho** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:58 pm

I'm most definitely in.

Gassho,
Dosho

by **chugai** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:36 pm

I am in.

by **berrykat** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:25 pm

I would like to be a part of the Ango -Gassho Andrea

by **Shonin** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:58 pm

Fugen, I think OJ is still in France writing books about how he would commit the crime which is coincidentaly matching police theories on the case. LOL

Yes, I know..incredibly tacky. But someone had to. It was just ...rightt...there.

Dave _/\_

by **Dojin** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:16 pm

Well im in... just wanted i wanted lately i felt a bit lax with my practice.. time to fasten the belt a bit.

Gassho,D.

by **Undo** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:33 pm

Commit to give up one or two items or passions one truly loves during the Practice period, for example, sweets after meals.....

Has the man no heart? :shock:

Count me in though.
It will be a pleasure joining you all.

Gassho

Undo

by **sarsem** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:10 am

I plan to participate.

In Gassho

Brian

by **Shinko** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:21 am

I will be participating, so count me in as well!

Gassho,

Linda

by **newcdn** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:57 am

Please count me in. I may have to do some of the retreats at different times due to work commitments. Thank you for being flexible Jundo:)
Gassho,
Jeff

by **shogyo** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:21 pm

Thank you Jundo for this rare opportunity. I'd very much like to participate in the Ango.

gassho
Brian

by **Bids** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:10 pm

Hi,
I intend participating.
I'll be away to the mountains for a couple of weeks in September with no much availability to internet but will check in when possible.
Getting to grips with the technical side will be challenging - here's hoping!

Gassho
Nadi

by **T.L.Wolf** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:54 pm

Please count me in for Ango and Jukai!

Gassho, T

by **agata** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:39 pm

I am going to participate in both Ango and Jukai these year.

I am happy to be able to practice with all of you.

Gassho,
Agata

by **miheco** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:50 pm

Jundo,
Please add my name to the scroll at Treeleaf.

miheco

by **Chris** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:01 pm

Please count me in for both Ango and Jukai.

by **Jinho** on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:47 am

Greetings All!

Rowan/Jinho is in!

(Not sure if this computer will support scype, might have to be phone!)

gassho, gassho, gassho,
rowan/Jinho

by **Bansho** on Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:37 pm

Hi,

Please count me in.

Gassho
Bansho

by **mum21andtwins** on Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:07 am

Jundo wrote:.

+ Commit to give up one or two items or passions one truly loves during the Practice period, for example, sweets after meals, luxurious meals, cigarettes, television, consumer purchases of luxury items.

Ok what If you don't have any of these? we scaled life down dramatically to enable me to stay home, the only time we have sweets is when my family comes over from Netherland I don't smoke don't watch tv don't buy anything that I can buy second hand new don't eat out well you get the idea.
my passions are knitting and spinning which are one of the ways I get a little extra income and prepare us for the wintermonths so not knitting/spinning is not and option.

I guess I could give up my washingmachine?

by **nichole** on Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:39 am

Technology willing I will be there.

by **Igor** on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:57 am

Please count me in for Ango and Jukai

Gassho,

Igor

by **CinnamonGal** on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:37 pm

HI Jundo,

Thank you for putting up that list.

I am in for Ango period. Look forward to meeting my edge and working it.

Gassho,

Irina

by **Equa Yona** on Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:06 pm

Crikeys! Its Buddhist super Lent! I was Eastern Orthodox for many years and our Lent lasted 6 weeks. We abstained from meat, dairy, eggs, oil, alcohol, seafood, sweets, and on strict days, ate one meal. Services on Wenesdays and Sundays(lasting one and a half to two hours, and during Holy Week, services nightly. Pascha service started at 10PM and lasted until about 2 AM. There is beauty in such austerity, but my ancient knees are giving me a hard time with 20 minutes so I will not commit to the full Ango this year. But I will commit to consistency, extended sitting, and other practices. Sorry for the long post and the ecumenical lecture, but I thought it might be of interest to some. Thank you for the encouragement and I will make the effort to not make an effort-just do.
Namaste
Roger

by **Tobiishi** on Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:27 pm

I just wanted to say, that with all these other people doing Ango at the same time, I hope to be able to stick to it this time :mrgreen:

(those of you who know what I mean, know what I mean...)

Treeleaf is an awesome collection of personalities!

gassho
tobiishi

by **Monsho** on Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:36 pm

Sneaking in under the wire, here . . .
Please sign me up for ango!
Gassho,
Monsho.

by **Dojin** on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:27 am

in case i forgot to say i am very much in... so i will gladly do this Ango.

lately i have been very lazy towards my practice and i didnt know why. i think i might of realized it a few minutes ago as i was sitting zazen.

it occurred to me that about 6-7 month ago i was being bombarded by rockets ( see the following link for more information viewtopic.php?t=1295 this is for the new members who did not follow my report during this time and wish to do so, dont feel you have too... )
during that time i felt a sort of helplessness and depression, i think that the feeling of some melancholy has struck me pretty deep... as i have been struggling with many issues in my personal, professional and social life.
so i think i know what was bothering me and can no move beyond it. and this ango is a great opportunity and a point of origin for me to do so.

i know this is probably not the most appropriate thread to post this but i felt it might be relevant and had the need to poor my heart out.

Gassho, Dojin ( accepting the bitter sweet symphony ).

by **monkton** on Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:23 pm

Hi Jundo,

thank you for the opportunity to deepen practice. I doubt if what I will be doing will constitute an Ango as laid out in the guidelines, but just to let you know that I've already started reading more from the booklist (the previous discussions in the booklist forum are very useful), will increase my sitting time along with everyone else and have identified some things that I can do more of and less of.

Gassho
Michael

by **JAK** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:22 am

Jundo,

If it isn't too late... Please count me in.

JAK
_/|\_

by **Jundo** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:43 am

Yes, today is the first day of the rest of your life ... and the first day of Ango too!

I will have a little talk on the sit-a-long later today to kick off the festivities!

I am content that so many folks will join in this Ango.

by **BrianW** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:20 am

Just wanted to say I am in on this as well!
Gassho,
BrianW

by **Jikyo** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:44 pm

Hi Jundo,

Please count me in for Ango and Jukai. It's still the 28th here, so hopefully I am not too late!

Gassho,
Jean

by **Bids** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:22 pm

Dear Jundo and everyone,
In preperation for tomorrow I have been testing my way into the zen hall ... I keep getting kicked out - actually don't know if I'm properly in.
I'm unsure if I'm pushing the right buttons.
If I remember correctly there were some instructions and tips posted about this long way back. Does anyone know where they can be found, or alternately could someone take the time to give a really simple a,b,c on how to get into the zen hall .. and stay there. This computer illiterate would be very graetful.

Has the time of our gathering tomorrow already been set??

Thanks and gassho
Nadi

by **Dosho** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:02 pm

Hi Nadi,

I can answer one of your questions: If you are the only one in the zen hall you have to open another browser window so you appear twice in the hall. This is because the software for the zen hall is usually used for teleconferencing, so when only one person is there it tries to save bandwidth. If there are multiple people in the room, then it isn't necessary.

As for the "gathering"', I'm guessing you are refrring to the saturday sitting. I must confess it has been a few weeks since I sat live, so I am not sure exactly what time that happens. Hopefully someone can answer that for both of us or I can try to find it posted somewhere.

Hope that helps a little!

Gassho,
Dosho

by **Bids** on Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:51 pm

Hi Dosho,
Thanks so much for your speedy response. I will try what you suggest.
About the 'gathering' tomorrow ... guess I thought our ANGO season would start with a sitting of the same name but could not find a posting on it ... must be the Saturday sitting as you say. I'm off to track down the time, I'll let you know if I find anything.
Looking forward to making a more then brief appearance. Thanks again.

Gassho
Nadi

by **Dosho** on Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:47 am

Hello again Nadi,

Here's the thread on the Saturday sittings and monthly Zazenkai: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=668

If that's correct, there's a regular sitting Saturday (8/29) at 10pm Japan time. Then there would be a 4 hour Zazenkai next Saturday (9/5), starting at 9pm Japan time. There is a time converter linked on that page.

Of course, with Ango and recent visitors in Tsukuba, things have been shuffled a bit, so hopefully Jundo will let us know if the info I linked is correct for this and coming weeks.

Gassho,
Dosho

by **Jundo** on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:52 am

Dosho wrote:Hello again Nadi,

Here's the thread on the Saturday sittings and monthly Zazenkai: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=668

If that's correct, there's a regular sitting Saturday (8/29) at 10pm Japan time. Then there would be a 4 hour Zazenkai next Saturday (9/5), starting at 9pm Japan time. There is a time converter linked on that page.

Of course, with Ango and recent visitors in Tsukuba, things have been shuffled a bit, so hopefully Jundo will let us know if the info I linked is correct for this and coming weeks.

Gassho,
Dosho

Yes, the "regular Saturday sitting" above will be the ...

"OFFICIAL START OF ANGO" Hooray! Hoozah!

The Zazenkai will start at the usual time ...

10 p.m. Japan time (currently New York 9am, Los Angeles 6am, London 2pm and Paris 3pm, Saturday) ... available for viewing and sitting "at any time" thereafter in recording ...

... but may run a tad long as I add a short talk and a couple of special items to mark the moment.

As always, links will be posted on the sit-a-long Blog a little before ...

http://blog.beliefnet.com/treeleafzen/

I am not sure if folks will also be sitting in the Sitting Room at that time, but of course, everyone is welcome to do so.

There will also be a series of talks and such dedicated or connected to Ango this coming week, and in the coming weeks.

Gassho, J

by **Bids** on Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:48 am

Thank you Dosho and Jundo.
Looking forward to sitting with you all this afternoon.

Gassho
Nadi

by **kfrance0** on Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:54 am

I'm looking forward to all of this. :-)

by **Mika** on Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:36 pm

Huh. I came back here after a long absence (I didn't literally even check the forums for months and my practice has been lax too) and it seems Ango is starting today. I'm not quite sure if I can commit to doing all those things - I have a rather limited internet connectivity at the moment (and like it that way) and no Skype installed for example - but I do make a commitment to sit two full periods of Shikantaza zazen each and every day from now on and also try to participate at the other activities when possible.

by **Jen** on Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:04 am

I would like to commit myself to this. I only just saw it today and will be adding the meal chants and extra sitting period today and will commence the other things listed starting tomorrow.

Now which of my many vices to give up... :shock:

by **kliffkapus** on Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:04 am

I'm in.

Still hammering out my sacrifices. I'll post those in the "ANGO Experience" thread later.

Looking forward to participating with you all.

Gassho,
-K2

by **SunnyP** on Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:58 am

I am adding the meal chant and extra sitting times as well, the rest I am still working out.

I am looking forward to experiencing this and sitting with you all.

Gassho,
Paula

by **will** on Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:41 am

Alright.

Gassho _/\_

by **Pasang** on Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:40 pm

hi
just to say I'm also up for Ango

Joyce (User name Pasang)

by **Govert** on Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:32 pm

I am in ,

gassho

Joris

by **frogman** on Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:51 am

Jundo and all:

Please count me in for Ango. I have started, and will continue for Ango:

To sit daily for 20min
To participate in all Saturday Zazenkai (some recorded)
Participate in the forum, as I now have an account
Will not purchase any luxury items

gassho,
Bryan

by **Martin** on Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:51 pm

I have been "away" (though, oddly, wherever I was, it was still "here") and I have just come across this.

Two questions, please. First, have I missed the Ango boat now anyway as it's a week or so after the start?

Secondly, I would like to commit to this. My schedule and the strength of the internet signal at home is such that I have rarely been able to join you "live" for anything, but I have sat with you at another time and still felt that I am with you, and no doubt that would be the case here. And as for managing the technical side like skype, well good grief, but I'll try. But the nature of my family life and work is such that whilst I would like to commit to all this I know that I will probably fail to keep this all up. I'm not saying I would plan to fail, I will commit to do it and mean it, it's just that, realistically I know that life will get in the way. Is that an acceptable commitment? Or is it meaningless and should I sit it out and wish the rest of you every benefit from this?

Gassho

Martin

by **Jundo** on Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:06 pm

Martin wrote:I have been "away" (though, oddly, wherever I was, it was still "here") and I have just come across this.

Two questions, please. First, have I missed the Ango boat now anyway as it's a week or so after the start?

Secondly, I would like to commit to this. My schedule and the strength of the internet signal at home is such that I have rarely been able to join you "live" for anything, but I have sat with you at another time and still felt that I am with you, and no doubt that would be the case here. And as for managing the technical side like skype, well good grief, but I'll try. But the nature of my family life and work is such that whilst I would like to commit to all this I know that I will probably fail to keep this all up. I'm not saying I would plan to fail, I will commit to do it and mean it, it's just that, realistically I know that life will get in the way. Is that an acceptable commitment? Or is it meaningless and should I sit it out and wish the rest of you every benefit from this?

Gassho

Martin

Martin,

You are never too late to catch this boat. Anway, the few days you missed ... add them on at the end!

As well, as you are one of the original leafers, going on a few years now ... you know how we roll. You do what you can do, commit as you can, and your busy life in your home and office --is-- your Practice, Samu and Zazen.

Gassho, J

by **Shonin** on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:13 am

Martin, as for Skype.. it's veryyy easy to use. I downloaded it the other day. Only problem I had was needing to purchase a USB headset mic. I had one with the normal jacks for the soundcard/front ports. Skype and other voice chat program did not like them whatsoever. People said I sounded fine, but they sounded like crappp ...wierd crackly noises and such. not just poor quality.

Also if on Skype it would have a tendency to start cutting in and out. A firned of mine said most of the times it did that he could hear me. Had the same issue using my regular speakers and a seperate mic. However, the USB headset fixed everything.

by **zak** on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:05 pm

Please include me in Ango.

Gassho Bill

by **roky** on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:06 pm

well, i'm not on the bus, but things happen that way sometimes -- in my case, seeing the zen hall full this morning was what it took to get me to make a committment to you all -- and i won't be meeting all the ango committments listed, but i make a 100 day committment to sit twice daily, minimum, in the zen hall, or at least on the scheduler, or if already scheduled, with other treeleafer(s), and to be in the zen hall for every saturday sit

to be honest, i have to say that i won't be reading or posting/discussing much, so can't commit to that, it still doesn't feel right for me -- and last i knew, my laptop(500mhz) is below skypes minimum requirements

so just wanted you to know that although i'm not doing ango, i am, in the hall, in support of this effort that everyone is making, to do nothing

gassho, roky

by **Jundo** on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:09 pm

roky wrote:to be honest, i have to say that i won't be reading or posting/discussing much, so can't commit to that, it still doesn't feel right for me -- and last i knew, my laptop(500mhz) is below skypes minimum requirements

Not everything is for everyone, Roky. That's for sure.

Do what suits your needs.

Gassho, J

by **JamesVB** on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:35 pm

Hello fellow Treeleafers,

Please accept my commitment to ango.

by **Igor** on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:30 pm

I just tried to run Skype on my system... It's a bit disappointing but apparently my internet provider (T-mobile UK) doesn't let their users use any type of VoIP software

. Well... there's nothing I can do about it. I will do what I can then...

Gassho,
Igor

by **Jundo** on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Igor wrote: I will do what I can then...

Gassho,
Igor

That is always all we can do.

Life is frequently a little disappointing, said the Buddha. Actually, life is life. It is us who feel all the "disappointing".

by **Martin** on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:32 pm

Jundo

Thank you. Please count me in. I will sit more, including a lunch time session when I'm not in a full day Mediation, make more time for my aged mum, and go without gossiping on my local football club's internet chat board, which is anyway a waste of the time that I definitely don't have. And I will do my best to catch up with all the recordings.

Dave

Thank you for the encouragement about Skype. I'm going to get to grips with this, I really am. Or, maybe, I'll see if I can get my son to get to grips with it for me.

Gassho

Martin

by **dharma_momma** on Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:41 pm

Ack - I'm just now seeing this a month later...

Next time...next time...

by **JamesVB** on Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:43 am

Jundo wrote:+ If technically possible, commit to meet with Jundo or Taigu by Skype video at least once per month during the Ango.

It has been well over a month since I began Ango. When should we Skype? What is the best way to schedule a time?

Thanks.

by **Jundo** on Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:52 am

Hi James,

Just PM me and suggest a time (but please speak to me in Japan time)

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=248

I am free most late morningas or from 10pm to midnight (Japan time).

It is very relaxed in the Soto way, do not expect some mysterious dialogue where I ask for an answer to a Koan and then hit you no matter what you say. In Soto, it is more "Hi, how ya been? how's practice going?"

Gassho, Jundo

by **Jundo** on Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:37 am

We recently finished our 100 day Ango, sitting with Dogen's "Instructions for the Cook" (Tenzo Kyokun) ... and if anyone is interested in starting another Ango looking at Tenzo Kyokun, Dosho Port is just starting ...

Have a look here ...

http://wildfoxzen.blogspot.com/2010/01/ ... movie.html

by **Shohei** on Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:31 pm

Im going to see if there is still a "seat" available. Thank you for the heads up.

Gassho
Shohei

by **Dosho** on Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:52 pm

Thanks Jundo! I am currently reading his new book on Katagiri Roshi which I'm finding very accessible for beginners of all types.

by **Shohei** on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:26 pm

Okay signed up.

Thanks for the heads up Jundo!

Gassho

by **Rob_Heathen** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:41 am

Can I assume there is a plan for doing this again for 2010? I would be very interested in participating if so.

Rob

by **Fugen** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:36 am

Rob_Heathen wrote:Can I assume there is a plan for doing this again for 2010? I would be very interested in participating if so.

Rob

Hi.

I believe there is, and i think Jundo mentioned it somewhere to start in late of august.
Thanks for your practice.

Mtfbwy
Fugen